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My MacBook Pro uses 194 Go of system space ...

Hi there,


I have a MacBook Pro running Monterey with 500 Go HDD and almost 170 Go of personal data, but I see I only have like 97 Go free and 197 Go (!!!!) of system data ...



I am wondering how to investigate this and if there are already folders I could delete the content (cache, OS update temp files etc ...) ?


thanks to help me here !!

MacBook Pro 13″, macOS 12.2

Posted on Jan 29, 2022 4:36 AM

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Jan 29, 2022 7:51 AM in response to cdelecole

cdelecole wrote:

Hi there,

I have a MacBook Pro running Monterey with 500 Go HDD and almost 170 Go of personal data, but I see I only have like 97 Go free and 197 Go (!!!!) of system data ...


https://discussions.apple.com/content/attachment/87501e47-1d21-40af-b512-331ce186d9ad

I am wondering how to investigate this and if there are already folders I could delete the content (cache, OS update temp files etc ...) ?

thanks to help me here !!


That GUI is notoriously inadequate and/or hard to decipher...


I have no idea why it says System Data(?) The normal macOS takes up about 15.8 GB



From the Terminal you can see more clearly and itemized list:


General Volume size, you can see, copy & paste:

diskutil list internal


For itemized details:


File size— list the items in the home folder with the sizes, including invisible items, copy & paste:

sudo du -h -d 1 ~/


File size—will list the items in root with the sizes, including invisible items, copy & paste:

sudo du -h -d 1 /




Empty your Trash — Delete files and folders on Mac - Apple Support

https://support.apple.com/guide/mac-help/delete-files-and-folders-on-mac-mchlp1093/mac


How to free up storage space on your Mac - Apple Support

https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT206996


See used and available storage space on your Mac

https://support.apple.com/guide/system-information/see-available-storage-space-syspf9b375b9/10.14/mac/10.15


User tip: "Other and What Can I Do About It ?"

https://discussions.apple.com/docs/DOC-5142


Try something like OmniDiskSweeper for a GUI to get a good look at itemized file size and location:

OmniDiskSweeper http://www.omnigroup.com/more



Jan 30, 2022 12:24 AM in response to leroydouglas

Thanks a lot, leroydouglas ... here is what I get with the suggested commands :


diskutil list internal
/dev/disk0 (internal, physical):
   #:                       TYPE NAME                    SIZE       IDENTIFIER
   0:      GUID_partition_scheme                        *500.3 GB   disk0
   1:                        EFI ⁨EFI⁩                     314.6 MB   disk0s1
   2:                 Apple_APFS ⁨Container disk1⁩         500.0 GB   disk0s2

/dev/disk1 (synthesized):
   #:                       TYPE NAME                    SIZE       IDENTIFIER
   0:      APFS Container Scheme -                      +500.0 GB   disk1
                                 Physical Store disk0s2
   1:                APFS Volume ⁨Macintosh HD - Données⁩  378.3 GB   disk1s1
   2:                APFS Volume ⁨Preboot⁩                 600.7 MB   disk1s2
   3:                APFS Volume ⁨Recovery⁩                1.1 GB     disk1s3
   4:                APFS Volume ⁨VM⁩                      20.5 KB    disk1s4
   5:                APFS Volume ⁨Macintosh HD⁩            15.8 GB    disk1s5
   6:              APFS Snapshot ⁨com.apple.os.update-...⁩ 15.8 GB    disk1s5s1


here I guess we can only see my 500 Go HDD with the 2 volumes but not sure if we can see something suspect ... as a reminder I only have really like 170 Go of personal data (documents, pictures, ...), as far as it is synced with OneDrive and I see this win Onedrive like 170 Go used out of the Terabyte I have.


with the second command, it looks like "Library" is what is taking the most ... not sure it is normal ???

177 Gb !!


sudo du -h -d 1 ~/
11G /Users/currentuser//Music
113G /Users/currentuser//Pictures
 65M /Users/currentuser//Desktop
du: /Users/currentuser//Library/VoiceTrigger/SAT: Operation not permitted
177G /Users/currentuser//Library
4,0K /Users/currentuser//.cups
8,0K /Users/currentuser//.bash_sessions
  0B /Users/currentuser//Public
4,0K /Users/currentuser//.ssh
 12G /Users/currentuser//Movies
3,0M /Users/currentuser//Applications
  0B /Users/currentuser//.Trash
904K /Users/currentuser//Documents
144K /Users/currentuser//.anydesk
3,3G /Users/currentuser//Downloads
8,0K /Users/currentuser//iCloud Drive (archives)
316G /Users/currentuser/




Is it possible you help from there ?


Thanks a lot for the help so far !


Jan 30, 2022 12:28 AM in response to leroydouglas

the output of the third command is far too big to copy / paste it here ... so I have only taken the lines where folders could be accessed and removed the lines where folders could not be accessed "Operation not permitted"


sudo du -h -d 1 /
585M /usr
4,7M /bin
2,0M /sbin
7,3G /Library
379G /System
5,1G /private
  0B /.vol
328G /Users
 18G /Applications
200M /opt
4,5K /dev
  0B /Volumes
  0B /cores
738G /



Many thanks for the help so far !

Jan 30, 2022 12:52 AM in response to cdelecole

P.S. and I found what is taking so much time in the mean time ... in the Library folder, there is something about by personal data files (I told you my personal documents were around 170 Go ...) in OneDrive/Documents sync ... which is the folder on my MacBook where I store my personal files and it get synced with Onedrive ...



sudo du -h -d 1 /Users/currentuser/Library/Group\ Containers/UBF8T346G9.OneDriveStandaloneSuite/OneDrive.noindex/OneDrive
155G /Users/currentuser/Library/Group Containers/UBF8T346G9.OneDriveStandaloneSuite/OneDrive.noindex/OneDrive/Documents Sync
7,1G /Users/currentuser/Library/Group Containers/UBF8T346G9.OneDriveStandaloneSuite/OneDrive.noindex/OneDrive/Camera Roll
 32K /Users/currentuser/Library/Group Containers/UBF8T346G9.OneDriveStandaloneSuite/OneDrive.noindex/OneDrive/VTO2000 motion snapshots
162G /Users/currentuser/Library/Group Containers/UBF8T346G9.OneDriveStandaloneSuite/OneDrive.noindex/OneDrive


But I guess those have nothing to be done in a Library / Group Containers right or ... ?


Many thanks so far !

My MacBook Pro uses 194 Go of system space ...

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