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Persistent horizontal lines appear on iMac screen

I am reaching out to share an ongoing issue I, along with several other users, have been experiencing with our iMac 24-inch models, and to seek a collective resolution.


Problem Description:

  • Persistent horizontal lines appear on the screen, which significantly hampers the usability and visual appeal of the device.
  • This problem arises without any physical damage, and despite the stationary nature of the device.


Steps Taken:

  • Connected to an external display: The external display works fine, indicating the issue is with the iMac's internal display.
  • Reinstalled the OS: The problem persisted post reinstallation.
  • Avoided operating the iMac for a week: No change in the situation.


Concerns:

  • The cost of screen replacement is high, and there's no assurance that it will resolve the issue permanently.
  • The quality concern is alarming especially for a brand that positions itself as a premium segment player.
  • The support received thus far has been unsatisfactory, with no definitive solutions provided apart from a costly screen replacement suggestion.





Please do not ask us to visit to service center and replace the screen for 650USD + , problem happens mostly after warranty.


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iMac (M1, 2021)

Posted on Oct 21, 2023 10:40 AM

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Posted on May 19, 2024 8:45 PM

According to the Apple support team I contacted, it's an LCD malfunction and the only solution is to replace it.


What they didn't say was why this problem is occurring after two years of using the iMac on so many computers.


So, as Apple hasn't yet assumed that it's their fault, what I did, given the lack of concrete answers from Apple, was to take my iMac to a technician and ask him to assess the problem to see if it's a construction problem or just a random fault.


The explanation I was given was as follows:


In terms of circuitry, everything seems to be working properly.


The problem, apparently, lies in a cable that also powers the LCD, which is located on one of the tops of the screen, and which, in order to be replaced, requires detaching the screen glass from the LCD itself, which is a very sensitive operation and almost impossible to carry out without damaging the LCD.


So the only option is to replace the entire LCD (LCD+main boards+screen glass).


Also, according to the technician's explanation, this cable (of the FFC/FPC type or Flat Flexible Cable / Flexible Printed Circuit), it has to sustain a very high voltage (around 50V) to power the LCD (this despite the iMac's power supply being 15.9V), and it heats up a lot!


So, what happens after a while (in this case after about 2 years) is that it starts to burn out and degrade at the connector, to the point where it lets the signals leak between the various connectors and short-circuits some of them, which ends up causing those lines that we are all unfortunately familiar with.


The level of brightness makes a fundamental contribution to this problem. Thus, the higher the brightness used, the sooner the problem occurs.


This is easily understood by measuring the difference in temperature at the top of the screen when it is at its lowest brightness level, compared to when it is at its highest. It's quite a big difference!


When it's at its lowest brightness, it's practically room temperature; when it's at its highest, you can almost "fry an egg"!


I think that as soon as Apple recognizes that there is a problem with these computers, the first thing it will do is make a change to the OS that reduces the maximum brightness limit allowed (to less than 500 nits). Time will tell...


Why does this happen?

For at least one of three reasons:

1- a design flaw - so this problem is likely to occur in a large number of devices;

2- a defect in components - the problem is limited to a few cases;

3- use of components below Apple's standards - the problem may be limited, or more widespread.


This was the explanation I was given. I'm not a technician. Only Apple will know the exact reason(s).


If I had to guess, I'd say that I don't believe it's a design fault, because Apple has an obligation to be very careful about that; I also don't think it's a fault with the component(s) because it seems to be happening all over the planet and doesn't seem to be localized; so I think it's due to the use of component(s) below, or at the limit of, Apple's standards which, when put under extreme stress (higher brightness), end up failing.


I think it's already clear to everyone that this is a design or manufacturing defect in this Apple model.


So let's hope that Apple takes on this construction problem and repairs it or at least contributes part of the cost of the (overly expensive) repair of our computers.


If it were a car, surely all our computers would be called into the workshop to replace the component that has broken down or is in the process of breaking down.


As it's a computer... let's hope that Apple will behave in a way that suits its customers, who believe in the above-average Apple standard...


So keep presenting your cases to Apple.

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Mar 9, 2024 4:48 AM in response to latVm

It seems like more and more Mac users are experiencing this line problems with their computers. Apple should be able to address and find solutions for this issue, as even users with newly purchased units are facing the same problem. This is a product defect issue. They should make sure to test their product before releasing to public.






Apr 11, 2024 8:32 AM in response to JuanMunoz

Sadly, this is the community forum. No one at Apple Support or up will respond. I don't even think they read this stuff here. Anyway, you can bring it to the Apple Store, call Apple Support since this is a hardware issue and not software. Hopefully you have AppleCare and that will cover the cost of the repair.

Apr 21, 2024 11:58 AM in response to latVm

One way you can prove or disprove that's its hardware or software is to erase the drive and install a new system. Do not migrate your user data to it for this test. If the problem appears then it's hardware and not 3rd party software issue.


If gone then it's software and you should manually restore the contents of your Music, Pictures, Documents and Desktop folders from your latest Time Machine backup to the new user account (which should be an admin account and can be your original user name and password.


Then you should reinstall all of your 3rd party software. NOTE: be sure to note all of the activation codes for those 3rd party apps that require them.


Also do not installed and run any "cleaning", "optimizing", "speed-up", anti-virus or VPN apps on your Mac on your new installation. A VPN is OK if it's required by your employer, bank or school.


If it's hardware related you'll have to make a decision as to how to address it. A possible alternative is to get an inexpensive 27 inch monitor and run it along with the damaged monitor and use it as your primary monitor.


Just some food for thought.


Addendum: all of this requires you to have a full and current backup of your boot drive with Time Machine or some other backup app.

Apr 21, 2024 7:59 PM in response to Old Toad

Dear Old Toad,


According to Apple support, it's an LCD malfunction and the only solution is to replace it.

So it's not a software problem.

It's a hardware problem.

That's already established.


So to everyone who has this problem, there's no point in wasting time trying to find out which App is causing it or which OS update is to blame and reinstalling the OS and all the Apps again and risking losing data trying to solve a problem that has already been determined to be a hardware issue.


Apr 22, 2024 10:49 AM in response to Jotap62

Jotap62 wrote:

Dear Old Toad,

According to Apple support, it's an LCD malfunction and the only solution is to replace it.
So it's not a software problem.
It's a hardware problem.
That's already established.

Then maybe the most economical path forward might be an external 3rd party monitor. When you upgrade to a new Mac it can be a second monitor for that Mac.

Apr 24, 2024 3:34 AM in response to latVm

Horizontal Lines happened to me just today. Bought in Jan 2022. Happened after like 27 months.


Crazy part is display issue happened for me on macbook pro 2017 15 inch after 3.5 years of purchase. Got it replaced for Rs 54000 in india. And keyboard was replaced on it once under warranty.

But keyboard malfunctioned on it too and still does not works effectively. But macbook works nice with external monitor still.


Bought iMac so that if keyboard malfunctions , i can buy it. And it did, after like 16 months, keyboard key 0 stopped working. Bought new keyboard.

But now display issue and that too device that has been on the same place not like moving with macbook.

Again spending same on display. will be too much loss.

Never needed AppleCare before but it seems i should have bought it with iMac.

Just this morning, my 14 pro max dropped and broke back glass but atleast it was my fault not in imac's case.

Double loss on same day. 24/04/2024. I will not forget this day.

This one is 4 usb-c. two fan model.


May 20, 2024 7:31 AM in response to Jotap62

The tech that did your analysis was thorough. Thats awesome since it's something Apple Stores people will never do for us. If the part is replaced with the same type of components then failure is again inevitable within 2-3 years. Perhaps if the display is set to 50%-60% and turn off auto brightness to prevent ramping it up higher will help make it last longer? Maybe? Sadly unlike cars which can endanger the passengers life, Federal Agencies monitor this, computers are not subject to same Federal Consumer Safety guidelines for component failure. If that component does not pose a safety risk. Like Fire, explosion type results from a component failure.

May 28, 2024 3:54 AM in response to erinaki

Hello @erinaki. I called apple again after like 20 days explained this, that someone is being offered free replacement. They were not quoting price. They said reach the genius bar, drove 1 hour 30 minutes in 48 degree celsius heat to reach the mall, there the genius bar said different countries have different rules/laws. And said i have to pay for this. I thought for a while and had no alternatives.

this is the 2nd mac on which i had to change the display by paying. But it was after 3.5 years on that macbook pro 2017 which was like even if i had apple care , wouldnt have mattered but in the case of imac, it was really necessary like the keyboard failed on me and this display now. Even all my future apple products, will make sure to buy apple care. First time broke my iphone back, because of not so good protection case. And back glass can be changed at like 50 dollars outside local shop but he said i will lose waterproof which is sad

Jun 10, 2024 4:51 PM in response to latVm

I have same problem. 2021 24 inch M1 Desktop Mac. Bought Dec 2021, lines turn up May 24. A little bit more than 2 years. Emailed Tim, hasn't gotten a reply yet.


I find recent apple products' built quality gotten worst. As example the Macbook light i bought 10 years ago last till today. The subsequent 2 macbook i bought, 1 died after a reasonable few years. And 2nd one the screen turned flakey but apple change the screen free for me credit to them.


But it's a worrying trend. If this persist.. i think i'll just stick to iphones going forward.

Jun 17, 2024 7:41 PM in response to latVm

I am facing the same issue, same model (M1 iMac 24", 2 ports), about 2 years old (purchased Feb 2022).


Hope Apple will do something about it. It is just unacceptable for us to pay an extra 700 just to extend the usage. Does that mean, for me to continue using this device, I have to pay 700 every 2 years?

Persistent horizontal lines appear on iMac screen

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