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Mac Mini M4 fan stuck at 1000 RPM

My Mac Mini M4 (Pro) for some reason refuses to spin at any speed other than 1000 RPM. Until I started to try playing some games, the temperature start hitting 100 Celcius, the fan starts ramping up. After playing for several hours it seems trying to bring it within 100-106c while playing the game, and never goes above 107c


Is running the Mac Mini M4 for 100-106 celcius regularly an intended behavior or should I ask for a replacement?


For the reference I live in South East Asia and my Feels Like temperature is around these range


Thanks

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Posted on Nov 22, 2024 8:07 PM

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Posted on Nov 22, 2024 8:29 PM

If this Mac mini is within the environmental requirements and with adequate airflow available, it’ll work.



The apparent or feels-like temperature takes other factors into account, and with no single accepted definition.


Mac mini specifies the measured temperature and humidity, and not the apparent nor wet-bulb globe nor other sorts of subjective temperature measurements.


Apple doesn’t publish its processor thermals, butnyour reported range matches others’ reports elsewhere.


If a Mac trends toward its thermal limits, it’ll increase active cooling where available, and will decrease clock speed where available; it’ll increase the fan speed and will thermally throttle. If the Mac goes badly out of range, it’ll shut down (hard) to protect itself.

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Nov 22, 2024 8:29 PM in response to sepTN

If this Mac mini is within the environmental requirements and with adequate airflow available, it’ll work.



The apparent or feels-like temperature takes other factors into account, and with no single accepted definition.


Mac mini specifies the measured temperature and humidity, and not the apparent nor wet-bulb globe nor other sorts of subjective temperature measurements.


Apple doesn’t publish its processor thermals, butnyour reported range matches others’ reports elsewhere.


If a Mac trends toward its thermal limits, it’ll increase active cooling where available, and will decrease clock speed where available; it’ll increase the fan speed and will thermally throttle. If the Mac goes badly out of range, it’ll shut down (hard) to protect itself.

Nov 22, 2024 9:10 PM in response to sepTN

I can't tell for the M4, but always be tempted to tell the sillicon-based are less prone to heating than the Intel-based. I have indeed an Intel-based (2018) mac mini and it often tend to heat a lot.


I use a third party (Macs Fan Control) app which regulates RPM of the fan either automatically or manually. It tells me by core what is the temperature, and many times, I see cores at 80 Celcius or more.


RPM is basically running between 1700 and 3000 or higher as needed.


I'm not claiming this is a reference. But 1000 does not impress me. At contrary, if really your temperature is around 100 Celcius, at least in the case of my 2018, it would run much higher RPM.


Obviously, if I had a brand new M4, I'd have it checked while under warranty.

Nov 23, 2024 5:10 PM in response to sepTN

I am afraid this new fan behaviour is intended. Apple changed the fan control curves. The M1 Mini was ramped up much quicker, but mostly didn't need to, because it almost never got hot. The denser packed Mini M4 gets hot more quickly, but, my interpretation, Apple doesn't want fan noise to point this out and to annoy the user, because on the Intel Minis, this fan noise felt cheap and screamed insufficient cooling solution.


Everyone will tell you that 100°C is fine and dandy, which may be true for some components, but definitely not for others close by, like capacitors. It is much too early to see if the prolonged heat will have detrimental effects in the long run. Warm expands, cold contracts, so of course this exhibits a force on components that behave differently and at the same time are bonded together. Xbox Red Ring of Death, anyone?

Nov 24, 2024 1:36 PM in response to sepTN

Thanks everyone for replying, glad to know that it isn't my Mac Mini malfunctioning, but it's the standard factory behavior.


Basically I just want the fan to start kicking up at around 90 celcius instead of 100 celcius.


I have tried installing that Macs Fan Control thingy, but it doesn't seems to be able to see the "CPU Temperature sensors"? I have tried searching it on youtube, for some reason I'm not seeing it. Is this Pro only feature?



As for now I have completely relocated my Mac Mini from my cramped desk to place with more airflow.

Mac Mini M4 fan stuck at 1000 RPM

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