Which Apple Watch bands contain PFAS?

There are volumes of research about PFAS that will offer you an answer to that question.

PFAS accumulates in your body. We're exposed to it in ways that are near impossible to avoid.

Avoiding any exposure you can identify is science based common sense.

popular=badservice wrote:

Avoiding any exposure you can identify is science based common sense.

You've expressed your opinion about what other people should do several times now. We understand what you believe to be the correct course of action.

You'd be better served to measure the PFAS accumulations in the bodies of the people wearing the band.

Remember, PFAS exposure is accumulative.

So the 'dose making the poison' doesn't really apply here.

I'm sure if you work in toxicology you'd understand this though, right?

popular=badservice wrote:

The scientific fact is not my or anyone's else's opinion.

It's just a fact.

That might be difficult to understand, but it doesn't change that it's a fact.

It is NOT a fact that PFAs in Apple watch bands specifically are absorbed through the skin. It is at best a hypothesis, and really only a conjecture.

How would you determine whether PFAs in Apple Watch bands affect the level of PFAs in the body, given that you have already claimed (correctly) that everyone carries PFAs in their bodies, and all in varying amounts? Perhaps some secluded Amazon tribe would volunteer to wear Apple Watches.

I’ll accept the fact that researchers could not detect PFAs without heating to the melting point. And current measurements can detect down to 1 part per billion.

You should really focus on the well known sources: fast food delivery containers, plastic kitchen tools, Teflon pans…

popular=badservice wrote:

The scientific fact is not my or anyone's else's opinion.

It's just a fact.

That might be difficult to understand, but it doesn't change that it's a fact.

However, how we decide to act on the knowledge of those facts (even if it were certain that there was danger from the watchbands) is an individual choice.

Ethanol is a poison. And yet, I chose to consume it on occasion. You may make different choices about ethanol, either to consume it frequently or not at all. Assuming you're an adult, that's your choice. I'm certainly not going to be so arrogant as to judge how you've chosen to manage that risk.

popular=badservice wrote:

Remember, PFAS exposure is accumulative.

So the 'dose making the poison' doesn't really apply here.

I'm sure if you work in toxicology you'd understand this though, right?

It always applies. I'm sure if you knew anything about science, you'd understand that, right?

Lawrence Finch wrote:

You should really focus on the well known sources: fast food delivery containers, plastic kitchen tools, Teflon pans…

The warnings about black kitchen tools also turned out to be somewhat overblown.

Yes a shame they didn't publish full results naming which brands had which results. I wonder why that was. My Apple Watch Sport Band is Fluoroelastomer so I assume it was one that was affected.

So is mine , I'm not worried by this kind of study, same as I didn't stop using saccharin sweeteners because feeding a stomach load to rats every day might give them cancer.

I would like to see the analysis of a swab taken from human wrist after 24 hours of wearing rather than solvents on the strap.

LD150 wrote:

I would like to see the analysis of a swab taken from human wrist after 24 hours of wearing rather than solvents on the strap.

That would make a huge difference.

Academics sometimes freak out having to work with real people.

+1

No problem 😎

@LD150 Most watch people wear watches constantly for decades. 24 hours??? They are called "forever chemicals" for a reason.