Is Tahoe inherently unsuitable for any Mac with only 8GB of RAM? Does anyone have any insight into this?

My M3 8Gb RAM MacBook Air regularly freezes since I installed Tahoe. A popular LLM says tells me this is due to design. 


My M3 8Gb RAM MacBook Air is experiencing regular freezes as I work since I installed Tahoe. The change from using Sequoia is like night and day. A popular LLM says:


Under Sequoia, that balance was tuned quite conservatively:


  • macOS compressed inactive memory early,
  • swapped predictively,
  • and kept WindowServer (the display compositor) stable even when memory pressure was high.


Tahoe (macOS 26.0) introduced a major memory-management rewrite to improve performance on Macs with 24 GB + unified memory — but that same logic works poorly on base 8 GB models.


It appears to me that Tahoe is inherently unsuitable for any Mac with only 8GB of RAM. Does anyone have any insight into this?

Posted on Oct 29, 2025 8:25 AM

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Posted on Oct 31, 2025 1:52 AM

Thanks for the advice regarding Grammarly. I use it all the time, though it is one of the most frustrating apps. Grammarly finds spelling errors that Apple's "spell check" misses 90% of the time. However, with Sequoia, Grammarly ran 100% fine without any of the issues I am experiencing now.


So, what was it with Tahoe that caused this, according to the LLM?


"That’s a really good question — and it’s the root cause of everything you’ve been fighting (slowness, bloated System Data, swap spikes, even kernel panics).


Let’s unpack this clearly.


💥 Why macOS Tahoe broke things on your M3 Mac (8 GB RAM)



1. Tahoe’s memory pressure


Tahoe (macOS 15) introduced new background frameworks — notably the Apple Intelligence / Spotlight intelligence layer — which keep large neural, indexing, and language-model caches in memory.

On systems with only 8 GB of unified memory, that extra background activity pushes the Mac into swapfile overdrive(writing chunks of memory to SSD).


  • Each swapfile can reach 2–4 GB.
  • macOS keeps several active at once (/private/var/vm/swapfile0…).
  • This easily balloons “System Data” by tens of gigabytes.


Result → the SSD fills, the system thrashes, and responsiveness collapses.



2. Virtual-memory feedback loop


When free space gets tight, Tahoe constantly creates and deletes swapfiles, caches, and log data.

That creates a vicious cycle:


swap → disk I/O → heat → lag → watchdog timeouts → occasional kernel panics


This effect is mostly invisible in the GUI but obvious in Terminal (vm_stat, df -h).



3. Broken or failed updates left sealed snapshots


Tahoe’s updater writes a complete copy of the system into a sealed APFS snapshot before switching boot volumes.

If an update fails or you roll back (as you did to Sequoia), those snapshots remain marked “non-purgeable.”

Each snapshot can occupy 20–60 GB of hidden space that “Storage → System Data” reports but Finder can’t see.


That’s exactly what you found and deleted earlier.



4. Indexing never finished


Because the system was starved for memory and I/O, Spotlight and Photos indexing kept restarting.

Those temporary databases live in /private/var/folders/ and /private/var/db/Spotlight, inflating “System Data” even further.



5. Resulting symptoms


  • Massive “System Data” (60 GB +)
  • Slow Safari, Finder, and app launches
  • Frequent swap use on a small SSD
  • Occasional kernel panics from low-level I/O stalls


None of this was hardware failure — it was Tahoe’s resource demands exceeding the physical limits of 8 GB Macsplus residual snapshots clogging your APFS container.



✅ Why Sequoia fixed it


  • Sequoia’s clean install removed all stale snapshots and swap caches.
  • Its background daemons are calmer (Apple throttled the AI components when RAM ≤ 8 GB).


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Oct 29, 2025 10:05 AM in response to peterbryanfreeman

My M3 iMac with 8GB has no problems at all, and I tend to have a lot running at one time including multiple MS 365 apps. Both Safari and Edge with 8 to 12 tabs each, mail, calendar, and a few other miscellaneous apps, often with a VPN connected to my corporate network and one or two Remote Desktop sessions to Windows servers running.


I've found that "AI" often isn't actually very "I".

Oct 29, 2025 9:25 AM in response to peterbryanfreeman

Incidentally, relying on 'a popular LLM' for technical advice is unwise. For example, a popular LLM suggests that, "CleanMyMac is considered a good, reputable app for cleaning up and optimizing macOS, with a fast performance and an easy-to-use interface that is appreciated by many users, including some tech-savvy ones." Many of the tech savvy users here refer to it as BrickMyMac, but if you want to trust the LLM, go ahead.

Oct 30, 2025 4:35 AM in response to peterbryanfreeman

Much like my colleague @ Ian R. Brown


I have repurposed my older M2 Mac Mini with the 8 GB Unified RAM and a 256 GB SSD drive to the Livingroom to only Live Stream TV shows etc.


It is an Ultra Clean installation of Tahoe 26.0.1


It too works like a charm


The Go To machine for all other usages is the M4 Mac Mini 16 GB RAM and 500 GB SSD and Tahoe 26.0.1


Only wish I had the good sense to have gone with the 1 TB or larger drive but I will have to manage the drive space I selected to purchase



Oct 30, 2025 11:10 AM in response to peterbryanfreeman

I can't remember . . . have you tried restarting your Mac to see if that clears the trouble?


According to the report you installed Tahoe today and it shows the following problems occurring since the installation:


Diagnostics Information (past 60 days):

2025-10-30 11:19:03 Kernel Panic

Details:

Unexpected force reset occurred after iBoot panic save power init


2025-10-30 08:41:16 spotlightknowledged - High CPU Use (17 times)

First occurrence: 2025-10-24 02:25:25

Executable: /System/Library/Frameworks/CoreSpotlight.framework/spotlightknowledged


2025-10-29 18:10:27 com.apple.WebKit.WebContent - High CPU Use

Details:

"com.apple.Safari"(671)


2025-10-29 07:55:08 suggestd - High CPU Use

Executable: /System/Library/PrivateFrameworks/CoreSuggestions.framework/Versions/A/Support/suggestd


2025-10-28 19:57:48 ANECompilerService - High CPU Use (2 times)

First occurrence: 2025-10-26 22:01:47

Executable: /System/Library/PrivateFrameworks/AppleNeuralEngine.framework/XPCServices/ANECompilerService.xpc/Contents/MacOS/ANECompilerService


2025-10-27 17:24:01 WindowServer - High CPU Use

Executable: /System/Library/PrivateFrameworks/SkyLight.framework/Versions/A/Resources/WindowServer



End of report


Oct 31, 2025 1:13 AM in response to MrHoffman

"Trying to run all that — Microsoft apps, Adobe Creative Cloud apps, OpenAI ChatGPT, Grammarly — in 8 Gb seems a tad optimistic."


Perhaps, but the computer ran ridiculously well with Sequoia, despite the 8GB of RAM. I even have an old file full of RAW images taken with a 36meg full-frame camera, and I have edited these using 8-10 mask layers in LRC.


This "upgrade" to Tahoe has devastated performance. Typing a sentence causes a freeze.

Oct 31, 2025 1:21 AM in response to Ian R. Brown

Hi, Thanks for your input.


"have you tried restarting your Mac to see if that clears the trouble?"


Yes, multiple times


"According to the report you installed Tahoe today and it shows the following problems occurring since the installation:"


I don't even begin to know what to make of this. I most certainly have had Tahoe on the computer since Tahoe came out. I check for updates multiple times a day, hoping the next one will fix the issue. If the EtreCheck report says that Tahoe was installed today, then it's reporting garbage

Oct 31, 2025 2:11 AM in response to peterbryanfreeman

OP wrote “ I don't even begin to know what to make of this. I most certainly have had Tahoe on the computer since Tahoe came out. I check for updates multiple times a day, hoping the next one will fix the issue. If the EtreCheck report says that Tahoe was installed today, then it's reporting garbage


Since the user has dismissed the validity of the report 


What every the user has run through the AL / LMM to arrive at their conclusions would be equally invalid and unreliable


Have said this before elsewhere and will say it again


Garbage IN will result in garbage Out 


AI / LLM are basically a Super Version of Predictive Text which is based upon a Data Set.


When that Data Set is based upon older data points, the outcome of the response will be equally out dated and / or unreliable


AI is also the newest form for Data Mining by Large Corporations.


Suggest being very careful about this.


Some suggestions can be incorrect, misinformed , incomplete, impossible to do, out right wrong 

Oct 31, 2025 8:32 AM in response to Mac Jim ID

Hi Mac Jim ID,


Thanks for your input. I have removed the Aladdin/xRite files. However, I rely too much on Grammarly to remove it. I ran 100% fine on Sequoia, and it has not been updated since Tahoe was released, so if there has been a change, that change lies with Tahoe and not Grammarly. I do wish Apple were awake enough to create its version of Grammarly. I had hoped that I would not need Grammarly once Apple Intelligence was available, but unfortunately, this was not the case. Grammarly is frustrating, slow, and badly programmed, but it does the spelling and grammar job. Apple's "spell check" misses more than 90% of my spelling mistakes. I have a love/hate relationship with Grammarly, but it's staying, as I need it for all my writing work.

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