MacBook Pro - 2 keys swapped on belgian/french azerty keyboard

Hello,

thanks again for your help. I fixed my problem with Karabiner (switch to ISO to ANSI even if I have an ISO keyboard) and created the keyboard layout I want with Ukelele.

Cheers.

Hello, yes that's the behaviour I have and I already tried that. This only works for an external keyboard. My logitech mouse seems to be detected as a keyboard so I have to disconnect it.

If I don't have anything plugged on my macbook (screen, mouse, ...), I don't have System Settings > Keyboard > Change Keyboardtype option (the button is not there). It only appears if MacOS detects an external device (even if it is not a keyboard).

I also tried the assistant but when I only have my macbook keyboard, if I press the key between w and left shift (the expected <> key), I get an error message like this Someone tell me what key to the right of … - Apple Community

I have no idea how to force my macbook keyboard to be considered a ISO keyboard. Any other idea? Thanks

Hi Tom.

So I tried the other key like you suggested and still got the same message as in the link below. I am quite sure that there is something wrong somewhere because I don't have an external keyboard, just a mouse Logitech MX Master 3S that triggers the "keyboard settings assistant" or something like that when I put the bluetooth thingy in my docking.

After that, I used Karabiner to switch my keyboard to ANSI... and everything works now. The keys I type are exactly like on my macbook keyboard with the French keyboard layout. I find that weird because based on the link here How to identify your Apple keyboard layout by country or region - Apple Support the normal setting should be ISO instead of ANSI.

But anyway it works so thanks a lot.

Since we talked about Karabiner, I am trying to do something else because the French layout is horrendous for {}[] etc (programmer stuff). When I use the Karabiner EventsViewer, the keycode seems weird.

So this is the physical keyboard I have on my macbook https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0810/3669/files/mac-french-keyboard_1024x1024.png?5737506641424099145

I want to create this mapping:

• ( key for (
• ) key for )
• option + § for {
• option + è for }
• option + ç for [
• option + à for ]

the default combinations don't produce anything I ever type so it is fine. When I type these keys in the Karabiner event viewer, I see this:

• ( = keycode "5"
• ) = keycode "hyphen"
• option + ( = keycode left_option and 5
• option + ) = keycode left_option and hyphen
• option + shift + 5 = keycode left_option, left_shift, 5
• option + shift + ) = keycode left_option, left_shift, hyphen

First, that's a big problem for me because I can't find the key_code for the symbols I want ({}, []) which makes it impossible for me to create a complex combinations for them (or I haven't found how to do that yet).

I used ChatGPT but it proposed something I really don't like like

{
            "from": {
                "key_code": "6",
                "modifiers": { "mandatory": ["left_option"] }
            },
            "to": [{ "shell_command": "osascript -e 'tell application \"System Events\" to keystroke \"{\"'" }],
            "type": "basic"
}

I am not sure if that's the only way to do what I want because of the "dead keys".

Any idea how I can do the mapping I want with Karabiner without using osascript ?

Thanks.

I don’t remember pressing it, I didn’t read the whole page… sorry.

I’ll try everything I see on that page this evening and report back here. Thanks.

Thanks, I’ll have a look a ukulele.