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Photos Library to iCloud to save hard disk space?

On my MacBook running Catalina it appears that my Photos Library is taking up a hefty 67GB of my hard disk space.

But I have signed up to 2 TB of iCloud space.

So it seems logical that the 67 GB of Photos should be placed in iCloud.

I synch my Photos and all appears on other devices (iPhone).

Why is it not doing this?

Or how do I free up the 67 GB of my hard disk space?


Thank you.


Posted on Apr 9, 2020 11:48 PM

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Posted on Apr 11, 2020 2:19 AM

Optimize Storage cannot free the storage completely. All your original media files will be uploaded to iCloud. iCloud is showing you mainly the storage taken up by the original image files.

On your Mac the Photos Library includes additional files -you will at least need the storage for the previews, thumbnails, faces thumbnails, the database files describing the albums and relations between the different versions of the photos and videos. These files are always stored locally and will remain even if the library is optimised.

For example:

  • On my Mac the Photos Library has a size of 240.60 GB,
  • the originals folder has a size of 182.58 GB,
  • the edited versions and thumbnails, faces, albums , database files need 58GB, roughly 25% of the total size of the library.

Even with "Optimise storage" the local library may have a size of 25% of the not optimized library. YOu cannot free the storage completely, if you want to use the Photos.app and not be restricted to the web interface.


You can force Photos to optimise the library at once as much as possible, simply by deleting the local copy and then downloading the library from iCloud to a new, empty library, see:

How to force Photos for Mac to Optimise the Storage Immediately


But i would keep a full copy of the library on an external volume for emergencies. Otherwise you will be stuck and cannot work with your photos, if your internet is not working well. And it is very hard to make backups of your photos, if they are only in iCloud and not on your Mac. Your regular Time Machine backup will no longer include the optimised versions. Without making manual backups of your iCloud Photos you will not be able to recover accidentally deleted photos, that are no longer in Recently Deleted.

Properly backing up an optimised library is difficult, if you want to be able to recover an older state of the library with the faces, albums, location,s all originals, all older keywords and other metadata: How to back up an optimized iCloud Photos… - Apple Community

It is the reason why I am not using the "Optimise" feature on my main macs, only on a small portable Mac with not much storage.


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Apr 11, 2020 2:19 AM in response to heliprecision

Optimize Storage cannot free the storage completely. All your original media files will be uploaded to iCloud. iCloud is showing you mainly the storage taken up by the original image files.

On your Mac the Photos Library includes additional files -you will at least need the storage for the previews, thumbnails, faces thumbnails, the database files describing the albums and relations between the different versions of the photos and videos. These files are always stored locally and will remain even if the library is optimised.

For example:

  • On my Mac the Photos Library has a size of 240.60 GB,
  • the originals folder has a size of 182.58 GB,
  • the edited versions and thumbnails, faces, albums , database files need 58GB, roughly 25% of the total size of the library.

Even with "Optimise storage" the local library may have a size of 25% of the not optimized library. YOu cannot free the storage completely, if you want to use the Photos.app and not be restricted to the web interface.


You can force Photos to optimise the library at once as much as possible, simply by deleting the local copy and then downloading the library from iCloud to a new, empty library, see:

How to force Photos for Mac to Optimise the Storage Immediately


But i would keep a full copy of the library on an external volume for emergencies. Otherwise you will be stuck and cannot work with your photos, if your internet is not working well. And it is very hard to make backups of your photos, if they are only in iCloud and not on your Mac. Your regular Time Machine backup will no longer include the optimised versions. Without making manual backups of your iCloud Photos you will not be able to recover accidentally deleted photos, that are no longer in Recently Deleted.

Properly backing up an optimised library is difficult, if you want to be able to recover an older state of the library with the faces, albums, location,s all originals, all older keywords and other metadata: How to back up an optimized iCloud Photos… - Apple Community

It is the reason why I am not using the "Optimise" feature on my main macs, only on a small portable Mac with not much storage.


Apr 10, 2020 1:39 PM in response to Michael Vallance

iCloud Photo Library (iCPL) is a syncing service, not a backup, or a cloud storage service.


When you edit photos on any device with iCPL enabled, the same edits (including deletions, additions, etc) are synced to all other iCPL-enabled devices, including iCloud itself.


If you are concerned about the amount of storage used by Photos on your device, change iCPL to keep an Optimized local library. As explained by Camelot, that is a gradual, when-needed operation, not an instant change.


Set up and use iCloud Photos (Apple overview):

https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT204264

Apr 9, 2020 11:56 PM in response to Michael Vallance

First check that Photos are set to sync with iCloud (System Preferences -> AppleID -> iCloud.


Assuming it's on, the OS is synching your photos to iCloud.

However, that doesn't necessarily mean it will delete the local copy. It only does that if local drive space is tight - after all, if you want to look at those photos you'd prefer to view local copy than have to wait for them to download.


While you're in System Preferences/AppleID/iCloud, you can click the 'Manage' button alongside iCloud Storage (at the bottom of the window) to see how much space each app/service is using on iCloud. That will tell you whether your photos are synched there.

Photos Library to iCloud to save hard disk space?

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