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Apple Numbers & Excel - can it yet import excel dates, reliably? Dates convert to numbers! Help please

Please has there been any progress or workaround since 2014 on this topic? I want to use Numbers instead of Excel, but find that many of the dates in Excel are converted to numbers when I open the file with Numbers. The workarounds are arduous... i am surprised Apple hasn’t addressed this dilemma in a critical aspect of the app. And I can imagine microsoft has no interest in making the transition any smoother. Here’s the original thread>>>> https://discussions.apple.com/thread/4993043

thank you.

Posted on Mar 25, 2021 12:12 AM

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Posted on Mar 25, 2021 8:41 PM

What versions are you using? The date import is working fine here (Numbers v. 11.0 on the left, Excel for Mac v16.47.1 on the right).




I simply saved the Excel document, closed it, and in went to Numbers File > Open in the menu and navigated to the Excel file.


If for some reason you are ending up with date serial numbers instead of dates then converting from a date serial numbers (that Excel uses) to date-time string (that Numbers and many, many other applications use) is not hard, as you can see in the thread to which you gave the link.


With the date serial number in A1, you get the Numbers date with:


=DATE(1904,1,1)+A1


If this is a frequent problem then there is likely a script solution as well where you could select the cells with date serial numbers in Numbers and click a button to convert them.


SG


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Mar 25, 2021 8:41 PM in response to gregabas

What versions are you using? The date import is working fine here (Numbers v. 11.0 on the left, Excel for Mac v16.47.1 on the right).




I simply saved the Excel document, closed it, and in went to Numbers File > Open in the menu and navigated to the Excel file.


If for some reason you are ending up with date serial numbers instead of dates then converting from a date serial numbers (that Excel uses) to date-time string (that Numbers and many, many other applications use) is not hard, as you can see in the thread to which you gave the link.


With the date serial number in A1, you get the Numbers date with:


=DATE(1904,1,1)+A1


If this is a frequent problem then there is likely a script solution as well where you could select the cells with date serial numbers in Numbers and click a button to convert them.


SG


Mar 25, 2021 2:18 AM in response to gregabas

If you are having problems with importing Excel dates using the latest version of Numbers then it appears you have answered your own question.


If your dates (numbers) are in one contiguous range of cells, you could use an AppleScript to convert them instead of using formulas in your table. You would select the range of cells, run the script to convert them dates, then set the cell format to display the date as desired. If your dates are in multiple ranges, you would have to do that for each range.

Mar 25, 2021 3:10 AM in response to Badunit

Thank you for confirmation of this fundamental issue regarding importing dates into Numbers app from Excel.

It is difficult to understand how it has not been “fixed” by 2021. I thought I must be imagining it!!!!

Dates are a critical part of many transactions, and are a cornerstone of spreadsheets.

Without reliable importation of dates, the take-up of Numbers, as a basic alternative to Excel, seems to be nigh on impossible.


It is even more odd when you consider this - excel spreadsheets, when opened with “quick look” on an iOS, will show the correct dates.

yet when opened with Numbers, the dates revert to a “code” that represents the date. Numbers cannot display those codes in a date format.


I had hoped for a “relatively simple” workaround - opening with quick look first, or importing to another app before importing to Numbers. The AppleScript option you mentioned is far less simple, for me, and as you pointed out, is limited in scope.


Am I the only person in 2021 with this concern? How do others manage the transition from Excel to Numbers, with spreadsheets containing dates?


Many thanks again for your prompt response.

All the best.

Mar 25, 2021 5:59 AM in response to gregabas

No thanks are in order. I did not confirm the problem. I rarely import Excel files and have never had a problem with importing dates, though I have heard of the problem before. It is interesting that Quicklook gets it right. I don't know how Quicklook does its thing.


I have found that importing/exporting between the two apps rarely gives me a satisfactory result. Usually it is cell formatting, the look of charts, and unsupported functions/features (both directions). The two apps have their own preferred ways of formatting things and doing things it and, while most of it may import/export, working with it in the other app can be painful. It might be fine for viewing the file in the other app or as a first step in transferring the data from one app to the other but if I am going to swap which app I use for a document, the first thing I do after importing is change the formatting of everything using the tools in the new app so as to get rid of any "custom" formatting. And I'll probably remake all charts.


If your desire is to get away from Microsoft, not necessarily go to Numbers, LibreOffice is one of the available free Office clones that is sometimes mentioned here. I assume its import/export is more transparent because it is meant to be a clone. Numbers is not.

Mar 26, 2021 1:47 AM in response to SGIII

Thank you very much indeed.


I’m running Numbers 11 and an iOS 14.4 ipad. Importing (opening) older versions of excel files .xls or .xlxs. Perhaps it works with your situation because of the platform and the version of Excel?


I’m dealing with quite a few “old” excel files that the dates “misbehave” when opened in Numbers. Some dates are ok. And yet when I open with “quick look” I can see the dates as entered.


It will be too time consuming to adjust all these historical dates (am not skilled at scripts) in multiple files.


I’m considering the options, including perhaps opening the files in OpenLibre, and saving, exporting, re-opening them in Numbers.


The ongoing subscription to MS Office 365 is a bit onerous for me, however, it is the simplest solution for now, that would allow both the ipad and the MacBook to share the files. (As i understand it, Excel for the ipad will not permit files to be saved to the apple cloud storage, so an additional microsoft storage subscription is required.). See how we go.


Many thanks to each of you for your suggestions, you’ve given me some tracks to follow.

Mar 26, 2021 3:56 AM in response to gregabas

Ah, "old' Excel xls files might well be fooling Numbers. Opening them in LibreOffice and resaving as xlsx might well be a good option (I'm not that familiar with LibreOffice.)


I believe the subscription to Microsoft Office (which I got through the Mac App Store) covers all the applications in the suite, both for the Mac and iOS, and of course for Windows. I believe OneDrive space is included with a subscription, but you don't have to use that if you don't want to. You can put your files in iCloud Drive, on Dropbox or elsewhere if you want though I'm guessing you might lose collaboration features that way.


If you are converting to Numbers I would keep in mind that while Numbers can open Excel files and convert them, it rarely does a perfect job because the apps are so different. In many cases you would want want to "reengineer" them to take advantage of special features in Numbers. In Numbers you can easily have multiple tables on a sheet (worksheet in Excel). So you typically won't want to be working with a big expanse of cells, many of them empty, the way you would in Excel. If you haven't already, have a look at the templates at File > New in your menu. You'll find lots of examples how to do things "the Numbers way."


SG

Mar 26, 2021 4:30 AM in response to SGIII

Thank you again.

Ideally I would like to continue to transition into the Numbers app, for the features you have outlined above, among others.


I can now report good progress-


LibreOffice website, although it caters to desktop computers mainly , mentions an ios compatible app, CollaboraOffice.


I downloaded and opened CollaboraOffice.


I opened an old excel .xlsx spreadsheet with CollaboraOffice, and the date formats are retained. :-)


from there, it was a simple process to save the file again (export into excel format), and reopen that exported file with Numbers app.


In this method, the dates from Excel displayed as intended in Numbers. It’s a big relief.


For others that may be encountering similar issues , it could well be worth trialling this method, and decide for themselves if it’s suitable for their purposes. ( I can’t endorse it, on the basis of one file. But for me, it promises to be a quick workaround for the presenting problem)


thank you apple community

24 hours later, I have a workaround

:-)





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