Persistent horizontal lines appear on iMac screen

I am reaching out to share an ongoing issue I, along with several other users, have been experiencing with our iMac 24-inch models, and to seek a collective resolution.


Problem Description:

  • Persistent horizontal lines appear on the screen, which significantly hampers the usability and visual appeal of the device.
  • This problem arises without any physical damage, and despite the stationary nature of the device.


Steps Taken:

  • Connected to an external display: The external display works fine, indicating the issue is with the iMac's internal display.
  • Reinstalled the OS: The problem persisted post reinstallation.
  • Avoided operating the iMac for a week: No change in the situation.


Concerns:

  • The cost of screen replacement is high, and there's no assurance that it will resolve the issue permanently.
  • The quality concern is alarming especially for a brand that positions itself as a premium segment player.
  • The support received thus far has been unsatisfactory, with no definitive solutions provided apart from a costly screen replacement suggestion.





Please do not ask us to visit to service center and replace the screen for 650USD + , problem happens mostly after warranty.


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Posted on Oct 21, 2023 10:40 AM

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Posted on May 19, 2024 8:45 PM

According to the Apple support team I contacted, it's an LCD malfunction and the only solution is to replace it.


What they didn't say was why this problem is occurring after two years of using the iMac on so many computers.


So, as Apple hasn't yet assumed that it's their fault, what I did, given the lack of concrete answers from Apple, was to take my iMac to a technician and ask him to assess the problem to see if it's a construction problem or just a random fault.


The explanation I was given was as follows:


In terms of circuitry, everything seems to be working properly.


The problem, apparently, lies in a cable that also powers the LCD, which is located on one of the tops of the screen, and which, in order to be replaced, requires detaching the screen glass from the LCD itself, which is a very sensitive operation and almost impossible to carry out without damaging the LCD.


So the only option is to replace the entire LCD (LCD+main boards+screen glass).


Also, according to the technician's explanation, this cable (of the FFC/FPC type or Flat Flexible Cable / Flexible Printed Circuit), it has to sustain a very high voltage (around 50V) to power the LCD (this despite the iMac's power supply being 15.9V), and it heats up a lot!


So, what happens after a while (in this case after about 2 years) is that it starts to burn out and degrade at the connector, to the point where it lets the signals leak between the various connectors and short-circuits some of them, which ends up causing those lines that we are all unfortunately familiar with.


The level of brightness makes a fundamental contribution to this problem. Thus, the higher the brightness used, the sooner the problem occurs.


This is easily understood by measuring the difference in temperature at the top of the screen when it is at its lowest brightness level, compared to when it is at its highest. It's quite a big difference!


When it's at its lowest brightness, it's practically room temperature; when it's at its highest, you can almost "fry an egg"!


I think that as soon as Apple recognizes that there is a problem with these computers, the first thing it will do is make a change to the OS that reduces the maximum brightness limit allowed (to less than 500 nits). Time will tell...


Why does this happen?

For at least one of three reasons:

1- a design flaw - so this problem is likely to occur in a large number of devices;

2- a defect in components - the problem is limited to a few cases;

3- use of components below Apple's standards - the problem may be limited, or more widespread.


This was the explanation I was given. I'm not a technician. Only Apple will know the exact reason(s).


If I had to guess, I'd say that I don't believe it's a design fault, because Apple has an obligation to be very careful about that; I also don't think it's a fault with the component(s) because it seems to be happening all over the planet and doesn't seem to be localized; so I think it's due to the use of component(s) below, or at the limit of, Apple's standards which, when put under extreme stress (higher brightness), end up failing.


I think it's already clear to everyone that this is a design or manufacturing defect in this Apple model.


So let's hope that Apple takes on this construction problem and repairs it or at least contributes part of the cost of the (overly expensive) repair of our computers.


If it were a car, surely all our computers would be called into the workshop to replace the component that has broken down or is in the process of breaking down.


As it's a computer... let's hope that Apple will behave in a way that suits its customers, who believe in the above-average Apple standard...


So keep presenting your cases to Apple.

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Oct 21, 2023 1:37 PM in response to latVm

latVm wrote:

Lol free diagnostic? They charged ne 30USD for inspection

Where are you located? as stumpy1946 pointed out in the US at the Apple Genius Bar the diagnostic is free. If you go to an Apple Authorized Service Provider they may charge you for the diagnostics but wave it if you have the repairs done there.





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Dec 14, 2023 7:23 PM in response to Akipotpot

Update: The horizontal black line disappeared, turned it off for a few days after but when I turned it on it was still there, a few hours after, I thought it disappeared by itself, but it just moved to the left part of my screen and became a vertical yellow line. Starting from where the horizontal line appeared the last time down to the bottom. Up to now, the vertical line is still there. It's unnoticeable, better than the irritating horizontal black line.

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Dec 15, 2023 2:32 AM in response to Akipotpot

Have you blown the dust out of the intakes lately?

What temperatures does this App report? Especially the GPU.

This App can be used to speed up the fans, all my iMacs would be dead without it.

Never ever ever drop fan speeds below the speed that the Mac itself is calling for.

MacFansControl…

https://www.crystalidea.com/macs-fan-control

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Jan 15, 2024 1:50 PM in response to steve626

Good point. I always get AppleCare on all my Apple devices. I've looked around other sites and forums, like Reddit. No one has talked about this so perhaps you are right. It's just not a big a deal to justify action against Apple.

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Jan 22, 2024 8:04 AM in response to cristobal2

Hello cristobal2,


That's first time some one mentioned that it got fixed. Would you be able to share more details please? did you kept it off? Low usage means , how many hours?


Also did you had the similar issue? do you have any photos?


Thanks

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Jan 22, 2024 8:31 AM in response to latVm

I had the exact same issue as everyone here. The first few nights (2 or 3), I used multiple pixel refresher videos from YouTube (5 hours or so each time), at max brightness. Then I continue to use the computer normally but on a second screen. Keeping the iMac screen at the lowest brightness for over a week.


Also, I pray a whole bunch :)

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Mar 6, 2024 2:33 PM in response to Jotap62

Understood, just trying to help with this part of the post...


Does this mean that the microphone is on and it is recording? Does anyone know anything about this light? This light appeared after the first of the two major updates.

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Mar 9, 2024 4:48 AM in response to latVm

It seems like more and more Mac users are experiencing this line problems with their computers. Apple should be able to address and find solutions for this issue, as even users with newly purchased units are facing the same problem. This is a product defect issue. They should make sure to test their product before releasing to public.






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Apr 11, 2024 8:32 AM in response to JuanMunoz

Sadly, this is the community forum. No one at Apple Support or up will respond. I don't even think they read this stuff here. Anyway, you can bring it to the Apple Store, call Apple Support since this is a hardware issue and not software. Hopefully you have AppleCare and that will cover the cost of the repair.

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Apr 21, 2024 11:58 AM in response to latVm

One way you can prove or disprove that's its hardware or software is to erase the drive and install a new system. Do not migrate your user data to it for this test. If the problem appears then it's hardware and not 3rd party software issue.


If gone then it's software and you should manually restore the contents of your Music, Pictures, Documents and Desktop folders from your latest Time Machine backup to the new user account (which should be an admin account and can be your original user name and password.


Then you should reinstall all of your 3rd party software. NOTE: be sure to note all of the activation codes for those 3rd party apps that require them.


Also do not installed and run any "cleaning", "optimizing", "speed-up", anti-virus or VPN apps on your Mac on your new installation. A VPN is OK if it's required by your employer, bank or school.


If it's hardware related you'll have to make a decision as to how to address it. A possible alternative is to get an inexpensive 27 inch monitor and run it along with the damaged monitor and use it as your primary monitor.


Just some food for thought.


Addendum: all of this requires you to have a full and current backup of your boot drive with Time Machine or some other backup app.

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Apr 21, 2024 7:59 PM in response to Old Toad

Dear Old Toad,


According to Apple support, it's an LCD malfunction and the only solution is to replace it.

So it's not a software problem.

It's a hardware problem.

That's already established.


So to everyone who has this problem, there's no point in wasting time trying to find out which App is causing it or which OS update is to blame and reinstalling the OS and all the Apps again and risking losing data trying to solve a problem that has already been determined to be a hardware issue.


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