Midi notes are now DOUBLING in 10.8 update

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Midi notes are now DOUBLING in 10.8 update

I've tried several of my controllers.. but every time I play notes into logic, every single note is doubled. also while recording.. every single note displays as if it's sustained. this within the first 5 minutes of updating and going to make a new track. MAJOR BUGS in the midi department.. hoping nothing else is wrong. Also, I have disappareaing regions. I'll record, and then the region vanishes when I hit stop. Literally press record, play, press stop... gone. In addition, when I go to click in notes, the window UNSELECTS the region randomly. I have been using Logic for 10+ years and every update, it seems they fix 99 things and break 100. It's pretty clear the developers and coders don't use the program, so I think you guys should take the beta testing more serious.. someone had to mention the fact that music is vanishing and notes are being added. Literally the most basic function of a recording program is to record accurately, and this is doing the opposite. please fix this.. like tonight.. I do this for a living, and those are difficult things to work around!!

https://youtu.be/qzTIiXOjAlc

Mac Studio, macOS 13.6

Posted on Nov 6, 2023 1:45 PM

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DonMichaelJr Author

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Nov 6, 2023 2:28 PM in response to DonMichaelJr

UPDATE: its only on Komplete Kontrol and the bug is most likely Komplete Kontrol.. my apologies Apple lol.

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Nov 22, 2023 1:52 PM in response to DonMichaelJr

Logic 10.8, BUGGGGG!!!

It's so frustrating guys! All the time in the control bar pumping the chords and the little dot !

Same thing in piano roll.. I don't use any midi keyboard and in the piano roll there are two dots pumping random midi notes I'm not actually play.

PLEASE FIX!!!!!!

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DonMichaelJr Author

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Nov 27, 2023 1:34 PM in response to DonMichaelJr

It’s not really anything for Apple to fix. The problem comes from plugins that support the AU2 midi output.. (basically allowing the instrument to send notes instead of your controller..) If you use the Komplete Kontrol plugin the notes will be doubled until NI fixes the issue. The good thing is once it’s fixed, you be able to use the “scale” and “arpeggios” from the plugin and it will output those notes/arps/chords to your piano roll instead of your controller. So then you’ll be able to edit arpeggiation notes in your Logic piano roll. It’s a great update, the plugin companies just didn’t know so they have to implement it into the plugins.

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DonMichaelJr Author

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Nov 27, 2023 1:36 PM in response to Fernsuarez

It’s going to happen with any plugins built in AU2 that allow midi thru put. The easiest way to check and see is if that plugin that’s doubling has an arpeggiator.. turn it on and see if the arpeggiated notes show up in your piano roll

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Nov 27, 2023 2:02 PM in response to DonMichaelJr

Issue isn’t brand especific, it’s Logics new feature but found a temp fix, press command 0 (environment) then eliminate the Sum cable and connect directly the controller output directly to where the Sum was connected… fixed. But you won’t be recording anything generated inside Logic (new feature), at least the double notes are gone.

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Nov 27, 2023 2:13 PM in response to DonMichaelJr

A trusted source that is deep inside plugin development at Native Instruments indicates that part of the fix is outside their control, implying Apple DOES have a role to play in resolving the problem of double MIDI notes in Logic Pro 10.8.

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Feb 22, 2024 2:14 PM in response to Matt_Wer

I've been having this problem for a few months now also, but I'm on 10.7.9. What's really strange is I'm going in and manually deleting all the duplicates, and then later while working in the same session suddenly the duplicates will reappear. Sometimes as many as 5 or 6 duplicates get stacked up. I've gone through the process of manually deleting all these duplicate notes several times on the same regions, but they keep coming back (even when I'm not touching those tracks at all).

In possibly a related note, ever since this issue starting popping up my old AMT8 midi interface no longer works with Logic. It appears to have some kind of midi feedback loop which causes it to throw a midi panic and freeze. I seem to have had this trouble since Logic 10.7. Ableton Live 11 works fine with it though.

Something's up with Logic's midi since 10.7

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Nov 20, 2023 10:33 AM in response to Emad.S

Having same issue here with KeyLab 61 and other controllers. Besides happening with NI it also happens with Arturia. But then, if I select an apple instrument, it doesn't.

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