Unable to manage system data files in macOS Sonoma 14.6.1

System data files have filled 80% of my Hard Drive and there is no information on how to manage these in Sonoma 14.6.1 There is not manage button, no system optimization, or way to off load them to the cloud. This has made my computer useless. My desktop files won't even show on the screen, my mail starts and quits, my browser says I need to delete sites I'm not using but there are only 31 of them saved. Why is this such a hard problems to get solved?


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MacBook Pro 15″, macOS 14.6

Posted on Jan 22, 2025 11:53 AM

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Posted on Jan 23, 2025 1:26 AM

Apple’s final word on managing the “System Data” category:


System Data: Contains files not listed here. It includes system files like log files, caches, VM files, and runtime resources. Temporary files, fonts, app support files, and plug-ins are also included.


You can’t manage this category’s contents. macOS manages them, and the size varies based on your Mac’s state.


Users have control over the User Account Folder (Home Folder). All other areas are inaccessible.


It’s good computer practice to keep at least 20% to 25% of the total drive capacity empty to avoid unintended consequences.


If as you have reported, 80% of the drive is used, the computer is approaching the magically and eventual warning from the Operating System >> " This computer is running out of Space " or similar message


Purgeable Space is controlled by the operating system. When the system needs more empty space, it moves some purgeable space to empty space.


There’s no user action to hasten this transition. It can take days or longer.


The links below help identify what’s taking up space on the internal drive and provide ways to remove user-controlled data (Home Folder).


Rebuild the Spotlight index on your Mac.


Free up storage space on your Mac.


GrandPerspective


How to delete Time Machine snapshots on your Mac.


This often occurs if the Time Machine Drive isn’t attached to the computer and TM Backup is set to run on a schedule.


TM Backup makes snapshots on the internal drive until the Time Machine Drive is attached. Then, the snapshots are transferred to the external drive.


View APFS snapshots in Disk Utility on Mac


See used and available storage space on your Mac.


Locate backups of your iPhone, iPad, and iPod touch.


If you use a suite of Adobe applications on this computer, they may create large cache files that can be removed. However, the Adobe cache files will be recreated as the applications need them.


https://helpx.adobe.com/ca/premiere-pro/kb/clear-cache.html


The same clearing of System Cache files can be achieved by booting into Safe Mode. They will be recreated as the system requires. 




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Jan 23, 2025 1:26 AM in response to lpbeugene

Apple’s final word on managing the “System Data” category:


System Data: Contains files not listed here. It includes system files like log files, caches, VM files, and runtime resources. Temporary files, fonts, app support files, and plug-ins are also included.


You can’t manage this category’s contents. macOS manages them, and the size varies based on your Mac’s state.


Users have control over the User Account Folder (Home Folder). All other areas are inaccessible.


It’s good computer practice to keep at least 20% to 25% of the total drive capacity empty to avoid unintended consequences.


If as you have reported, 80% of the drive is used, the computer is approaching the magically and eventual warning from the Operating System >> " This computer is running out of Space " or similar message


Purgeable Space is controlled by the operating system. When the system needs more empty space, it moves some purgeable space to empty space.


There’s no user action to hasten this transition. It can take days or longer.


The links below help identify what’s taking up space on the internal drive and provide ways to remove user-controlled data (Home Folder).


Rebuild the Spotlight index on your Mac.


Free up storage space on your Mac.


GrandPerspective


How to delete Time Machine snapshots on your Mac.


This often occurs if the Time Machine Drive isn’t attached to the computer and TM Backup is set to run on a schedule.


TM Backup makes snapshots on the internal drive until the Time Machine Drive is attached. Then, the snapshots are transferred to the external drive.


View APFS snapshots in Disk Utility on Mac


See used and available storage space on your Mac.


Locate backups of your iPhone, iPad, and iPod touch.


If you use a suite of Adobe applications on this computer, they may create large cache files that can be removed. However, the Adobe cache files will be recreated as the applications need them.


https://helpx.adobe.com/ca/premiere-pro/kb/clear-cache.html


The same clearing of System Cache files can be achieved by booting into Safe Mode. They will be recreated as the system requires. 




Jan 25, 2025 5:12 AM in response to lpbeugene

”System Data” is not data created by the “System.” That storage display is created by a Spotlight search. Items are grouped into the categories listed. If it can’t match the data type to one of the other categories, it is lumped into “System Data.” Sometimes it is just your data misidentified. Re-indexing Spotlight may fix that problem.

It can also be local Time Machine snapshots. Those can be viewed in Disk Utility. View APFS snapshots in Disk Utility on Mac - Apple Support

If that doesn’t resolve the issue, you can look for large blobs of data with GrandPerspective.

Jan 23, 2025 9:23 AM in response to Owl-53

Thak you but I have read all this before. What you are telling me is that my 1TB hard drive has been taken over by files I can't manage. Basically, my computer is done. After three years my drive is useless unless I remove my 70 gb of applications and data. This is an apple defect! If it can't manage the system data files in a way that gives me access to my drive, it is essentially a product with an expire date. If I bought 10 TB it would just fill it with system data and I would get on 2TB of actual storage after three years of usage.

Jan 25, 2025 2:08 AM in response to lpbeugene

lpbeugene wrote:

I have no idea what you are talking about. What do you mean? I purchased 1Tb ssd. 880GB of it is system data files. 80% of the disk is unmanageable. The 20% is well managed. I cant' do anything more with the part I manage.

We do not understand what you do not understand


Perhaps if you explain what you do not understand we will understand each other

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