How to transfer photos (that no other Apple tool can detect) off an iPhone

Was helping a client regain control of her photo collection today, by consolidating it into the Photo Library on her iMac.


She had a massive collection on her iPhone and it was eating up much of the storage. Using Photos and a USB cable on the Mac, I imported the newest few dozen. Photos said some 700+ in the phone had already been imported and (of course) didn't provide an easy way of deleting them, so I prepared to delete them by hand... but found over 5,000 photos on the iPhone. The 700 already-imported photos that it was reporting were the youngest 700 -- the rest were over 10 years of memories from 2005 to 2017 (a date range that had next to no resident photos in the Photo Library). So by hand, I deleted the ones Photos knew about. Now Photos said there were no photos on the phone. But of course, there were -- roughly 5,000 more.


Trying to figure a good way of getting them into the Mac, I selected a swath of them and tried AirDrop. Some small percentage got through, others were left gray, and I got a fatal error message on the Mac. Tried several variations on this before giving it up as a bad idea.


Thought I'd try one of the third-party tools that read the iPhone's file system more or less directly, to get it to transfer them to the iMac. Downloaded iMazing from the App Store. Told it to look for photos. It did a fair amount of grinding, showing me non-trivial work was being done, and then... gave me exactly the same results as Photos. It showed no photos on the phone. Now, it knew about all the client's album names and subfolder organization, but showed nothing in any of them. For kicks, I asked it to look at the Recently Deleted folder, and that worked 100% properly as one would expect -- found all the photos I had recently deleted by hand. But nothing in the main library, which still had 5,000 photos in it that I could manually click on and view at the phone.


At this point, I was buffaloed, trying to think of any other explanation for what I was seeing. I've seen this sort of behavior when one downloads images one has received in Messages -- they show up on the phone as photos "from person X" and need to be "fully" committed to the library before they act like normal photos. But that wasn't the case here, and certainly not for 5,000 messages.


(And yes, I did try "powering it off and then turning it on again" -- both the iMac and the iPhone.)


I thought, perhaps this is an artifact of iCloud photos. But the only device using iCloud photos was her iPad, and we corrected that and then disabled iCloud photos (after first downloading them to the iMac). There were well under 500 in there in any case, and not from the date range observed.


So bottom line is that we managed to corral and consolidate all the client's photos, EXCEPT for about 5,000 of them that are still on her iPhone and which no Apple or third-party tool I tried can see from OUTSIDE the phone, except that Photos on the iPhone will still let you click and view them.


Does anybody have any clever ideas how to transfer them to the iMac?


(The iMac is a 2017 large-screen with fusion drive running Ventura; I don't have the iPhone details -- sorry -- but it's recent enough not to have a bottom button, and the iOS seemed recent enough as well, though not the Liquid Glass release.)

Posted on Nov 19, 2025 9:58 PM

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Nov 30, 2025 4:18 PM in response to Servant of Cats

Issue update:


After a client session today, I know more about this problem, but it's still an overall mystery.


There are 14,000+ "mystery-mode" photos on her iPhone. She attempted to make some small headway by manually reviewing the photos and deleting the ones that are obviously useless to her, only to find that they would not delete.


Image Capture saw nothing on the phone besides the couple dozen photos she had taken recently.


In the past, she had used a SanDisk plug-in drive made for Lightning ports, and I suspected some sort of import via this device may have been responsible for loading the "mystery-mode" photos. I had her reattach the drive and launch the software. The backup scanner found the recent photos, but entirely failed to acknowledge the existence of the other 14,000 photos, so I doubt this facility was the source of the problem or will be useful in solving it.


I took an unencrypted backup of the phone for the benefit of third-party backup scanners, then tried several from the App Store. Only one of them (iBackup Viewer) admitted to the existence of any (though not all) of the mystery-mode photos along with all of the recent photos, and disclosed that none of the mystery-mode photos had names! Using the info icon on the iPhone, we found that the mystery-mode photos had accessible date information (and presumably metadata), but blank names. Unfortunately, iBackup Viewer was unable to export any of the mystery-mode files.


So the current state of things is:

We have a safestored unencrypted backup of the iPhone so as not to lose the photos.

The mystery photos have no names

We have not found a tool that will export them. (Does anyone have a good Swiss Army version?)

We have not found any way to delete them from the phone after recovering them.


Ideas solicited.


Nov 30, 2025 6:36 PM in response to TheLittles

Not sure what to do about a cache issue even if it is one.


Client declined to buy the paid version of iBackup Viewer, given that it only saw a subset of the photos, and wouldn't even export a single, which the free version is supposed to allow. Also, that failure was accompanied by no error message whatsoever, implying that the app even noticing these photos is probably a lucky accident that is unlikely to persist.


I can reset the phone easily if that's the only option, and most of the good stuff (contacts, messages, passwords, apps) would repopulate off iCloud anyway, but we'd have to save Files (and probably some other stuff I'd forget) manually, and she'd lose game scores, histories, app data, nav maps, etc. It would be nicer if there were a way around it... like, say, a reliable backup editing tool that could just excise the photo section out of the backup, then reload it.

Dec 1, 2025 1:17 AM in response to macswe

Proprietary tools advertised to manipulate iphone and backup data are often over-sold on their efficacy. Apple make data structures secure for a reason,


Before iCloud became a thing, Apple designed photos workflows to be Imported (pulled) from iphone to Mac, and Synchronised (pushed) back to the iphone. They never designed photos to be sync'd (pushed) from iphone. Subtle but important principle.


The purpose of a standard backup, erase, and backup restore is to remove orphaned data such as photos pushed from a mac.. Legitimate app data is restored.

Nov 30, 2025 5:13 PM in response to macswe

"How to transfer photos (that no other Apple tool can detect) off an iPhone"

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Thank you or the screenshot.


Getting this:

If the file names are missing, it kind of seems like a cache issue, where items that are pending deletion are seen.


iBackup Viewer:

Are you using the paid version here? The paid version might do the job. According to the developer, you can export these in batches, etc.

  1. Go Here: Frequently Asked Questions - iBackup Viewer
  2. Scroll to: What are the benefits of the Pro version iBackup Viewer?
  3. As it Reads: "Although the free version of iBackup Viewer can do most of the work, the Pro version can provide many advanced features, such as exporting iMessages or WhatsApp messages to PDF file without limitation, exporting multiple photos in batch etc."


Getting These ALL off of your iPhone:

To get this off of your iPhone, the ultimate resolution would be to back up what need be(i.e. through close storage), and then reset your iPhone to Factory Settings. Go here: How to Factory Reset your iPhone, iPad, or iPod touch - Apple Support

How to transfer photos (that no other Apple tool can detect) off an iPhone

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