How to clone 22 identical school Macs using TimeMachine?

Hello insiders


We are a small school and are actually setting up 22 Mac minis (model 2024 running Tahoe).

We would like to clone them using TimeMachine rather than using MDM.

However, I read that I can only restore 5 devices from a TimeMachine Backup.



Can I do the following ?

1) Setup a "God" master and make a GodTimeMachineBackup

2) Use GodTimeMachineBackup to restore 4 "Masters"

3) Make MasterTimeMachineBackups 1 - 4

4) Use those TimeMachineBackups 1 - 4 to restore the remaining 17 devices (making 4 or 5 restores with each backup)


Or do I need to manually setup 4 individual Masters and restore them to 18 devices using 4 TimeMachine Backups? (making 4 or 5 restores with each backup)


Thanks


Posted on Dec 2, 2025 3:17 AM

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Posted on Dec 4, 2025 5:01 AM

Swiss_Teacher wrote:

Another reason for not using MDM is we would like to use "DeepFreeze" by Faronics on our new Mac minis: DeepFreeze proves to be a perfect way for us to setup something like Apple's guest account: A "one-time" login that leaves no tracks and totally resets at each login, but can be initially setup by us.

It really isn't possible to clone a Mac system, or even an individual home directory, and hasn't been for years. Apple stores certain unique identifiers in the system Library folder and in the individual users' Library folders. So when you make a copy of those, they aren't unique anymore.


I discovered this when I tried to use Time Machine in the manner you describe and then I couldn't get iCloud Keychain to work. This will also break certain Continuity features. It's the kind of thing that seems to work great, and then, later on, you try some new feature, or an old feature you haven't tried before, and it doesn't work. It works fine for other people, and usually for people answering questions on this forum, but you can't get it work. In many cases, the problem is some unsupported configuration like this that you setup years before.


If you read Faronics description of DeepFreeze for Mac, you'll notice that it has less features than the product for other systems. It focuses heavily on restoration to a known good configuration. Every time I search for the word "clone" on the site, it's always next to a Windows screenshot. I think this feature would likely be useful in the environment you describe, but just don't try to use it to make any clones.

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Dec 4, 2025 5:01 AM in response to Swiss_Teacher

Swiss_Teacher wrote:

Another reason for not using MDM is we would like to use "DeepFreeze" by Faronics on our new Mac minis: DeepFreeze proves to be a perfect way for us to setup something like Apple's guest account: A "one-time" login that leaves no tracks and totally resets at each login, but can be initially setup by us.

It really isn't possible to clone a Mac system, or even an individual home directory, and hasn't been for years. Apple stores certain unique identifiers in the system Library folder and in the individual users' Library folders. So when you make a copy of those, they aren't unique anymore.


I discovered this when I tried to use Time Machine in the manner you describe and then I couldn't get iCloud Keychain to work. This will also break certain Continuity features. It's the kind of thing that seems to work great, and then, later on, you try some new feature, or an old feature you haven't tried before, and it doesn't work. It works fine for other people, and usually for people answering questions on this forum, but you can't get it work. In many cases, the problem is some unsupported configuration like this that you setup years before.


If you read Faronics description of DeepFreeze for Mac, you'll notice that it has less features than the product for other systems. It focuses heavily on restoration to a known good configuration. Every time I search for the word "clone" on the site, it's always next to a Windows screenshot. I think this feature would likely be useful in the environment you describe, but just don't try to use it to make any clones.

Dec 4, 2025 4:11 AM in response to celliott147

Thanks for your answer, celliot147

We are considering using MDM for the first time, in combination with Jamf. However, it looks like we cannot setup all the necessery elements and for Jamf and we need support of a specialised, official dealer in our country. I explained them our needs and the setup we'd like. The quote for "manpower" until everything is running is about 2000 CHF plus the yearly costs for Jamf of about 400 CHF, which seems quite expensive to us.

That's why we consider setting everything up without MDM.

Swiss_Teacher

Dec 4, 2025 4:36 AM in response to Swiss_Teacher

Another reason for not using MDM is we would like to use "DeepFreeze" by Faronics on our new Mac minis: DeepFreeze proves to be a perfect way for us to setup something like Apple's guest account: A "one-time" login that leaves no tracks and totally resets at each login, but can be initially setup by us. (Unlike Apple's guest account).

The company that would be setting up Jamf for us does not know DeepFreeze and fears it would cause conflict.

Swiss_Teacher

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