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First page different from second page numbering

I am trying to finish the formatting for a thesis and can't get the page numbers to work correctly. It has been a while since I worked in Pages and have brought all my writing over into it. How can I have pages insert a page number at the bottom of the first page of every chapter, but in the top right for each subsequent page? I used to do this on previous research papers, but I am wondering if Apple changed something that wont let me do it. I looked back at other research papers and I didn't need to insert a section break between the first page of the chapter and the subsequent ones.


Can anyone help so that I can keep all 5 chapters in one single document for submission?

Mac mini 2018 or later

Posted on Sep 5, 2019 12:26 PM

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Posted on Sep 5, 2019 1:54 PM

Pages provides the option to hide the header and footer on the first page of a section. The page still has a number, but it is not displayed in either the header or the footer of the first page of the section, as the header and footer are hidden on that page.


Replace the hidden footer on that page with a text box in which you have entered the page number (requires editing whenever the number of pages above that location has changed) or Insert (menu) > Page Number in the text box (Changes automatically if the page number changes).


Regards,

Barry

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Sep 5, 2019 1:54 PM in response to Aaron.l.hoskins

Pages provides the option to hide the header and footer on the first page of a section. The page still has a number, but it is not displayed in either the header or the footer of the first page of the section, as the header and footer are hidden on that page.


Replace the hidden footer on that page with a text box in which you have entered the page number (requires editing whenever the number of pages above that location has changed) or Insert (menu) > Page Number in the text box (Changes automatically if the page number changes).


Regards,

Barry

Sep 6, 2019 9:30 AM in response to Diane T

The sections are not the problem. I have each chapter as a separate section, and I have (as it is supposed to be per formatting requirements) the numbering set to continue through each section. What I need to change is the location of the page number depending on if it is the first page of the chapter or a subsequent page of the chapter. Inserting an additional section break at the end of the last line of the first page of each chapter, which is usually the middle of a paragraph, only makes it harder to revise and edit because I will have to move that section break if I change anything that affects the current length of the first page of each section.

I think my best bet will be to try Barry’s suggestion, and if I can get the text box with a page number inserted into it to sit in the same location as the footer should be, then that is likely be my best solution.

I know when I used to work with Word (7 years ago), there was an option to not simply “hide on the first page” of a section, but the make the first page of the section different than the rest, simple distinction, but very useful.

Will report back if it works.

Sep 6, 2019 2:54 PM in response to Aaron.l.hoskins

The following is how I did it using Pages '09 v4.3. I assume you have a later version of Pages, but the concepts are the same.


You might want to duplicate your document and practice with it before altering the

original.


Note: “Use previous headers & footers” in my version of Pages is the same as “Match previous section” in later versions of Pages.


1) It would be helpful to click View > Page Thumbnails and click View > Show Invisibles.

2) On the Document tab of the Document inspector, select Headers and select Footers. You might need to adjust the top and bottom margins.

3) Assuming your document is contained in one section, click anywhere in your document and deselect (uncheck)

“Use previous headers & footers” on the Section tab of the Layout inspector. Thus, every page in your document will have

“Use previous headers & footers” deselected.

4) Break your document’s pages into sections so that the first page of each chapter will be in its own section and the

following pages of each chapter will be in their own section: Starting with the

first chapter, put the insertion point at the end of the first page of each chapter and click Insert > Section Break, and put the insertion point at the end of the last page of each chapter and click Insert > Section Break. You

might not need to insert a section break at the end of the last page of the last chapter.

5) Working with one chapter first-page at a time, click in the footer on the first page of each chapter (it doesn’t matter which chapter you start with) and then click Insert > Page Number. The proper sequential number will appear in the

footer on that page. Keep going until all the chapter first-page footers have numbers.

6) Working with one chapter second page at a time, click in the header on the

second page of each chapter (it doesn’t matter which chapter you start with) and

then click Insert > Page Number. The proper sequential number will appear in all

the headers of the following pages in that chapter.


Sep 9, 2019 9:05 AM in response to Barry

Thanks for the input, this was the solution, and "insert"ing the page numbers from the menu into the text box instead of manually typing them, makes it automatically change with any edits like it should. This is a great work around, but wish it was built in a little better. Ultimately all the other commenter either didn't completely read my initial question, or misunderstood what I was looking to do and therefore were completely unhelpful.


Thanks again Barry for the input.

First page different from second page numbering

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