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Why do my Photo Stream photos also show up in my main Photos library on my iMac?

I have read all the apple support pages I can find about using Photo Stream and iCloud for photos on my iMac and iPhone, but remain puzzled about one thing. My settings on my iMac: My Photo Stream is turned on and iCloud Photo Library is turned off. On my iPhone: both are turned on. When I take an iPhone photo, it shows up in My Photo Stream on my iMac. What surprises me, is that the photo also shows up in the main Photos folder. And if I delete the photo from either place, it is removed from both places.


What's going on here? My expectation was that the photo should only show up in Stream, and if I want it permanently in Photos, I would need to move a copy from Stream to Photos before the 30-day expiration from Stream. But it's already there in Photos, and apparently not permanently, since deleting it from Stream also deletes it from Photos. What will happen after 30 days -- will the photo disappear from both Stream and Photos on my iMac? If that's what happens, how do I go about making sure that Photo Stream photos are permanently saved to Photos? I see no straight-forward way to copy or import the photo from Stream to Photos, in part because it's already in Photos.

iMac, OS X 10.11

Posted on Nov 3, 2019 6:26 AM

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Posted on Nov 3, 2019 3:32 PM

I've been using this for a while and they stay on the Mac after the 30 day 1000 photo rule. Its how a lot of photos get onto my Mac without having to connect my phone.


***But this does not transfer Live Photos or videos.


Its great for casual users. However if you want more control its probably easier to leave it off on your Mac, and just connect monthly and dump all your photos and videos. Just find the system that works best for you, just do your best to understand any pros and cons.

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Nov 3, 2019 3:32 PM in response to LACAllen

I've been using this for a while and they stay on the Mac after the 30 day 1000 photo rule. Its how a lot of photos get onto my Mac without having to connect my phone.


***But this does not transfer Live Photos or videos.


Its great for casual users. However if you want more control its probably easier to leave it off on your Mac, and just connect monthly and dump all your photos and videos. Just find the system that works best for you, just do your best to understand any pros and cons.

Nov 3, 2019 4:14 PM in response to zanzen

I could not find an Apple Support page that explains this.

See >>> https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201317



Photo Stream has no automation built in, other than the 30 day/1000 photo limit.


It is expected you will copy the photos from Photo Stream to wherever you wish to keep them as you go. It is a transportation mechanism, not storage. the mention of import above assumes you are also using the iCloud Photo Library, which you are not.



Nov 3, 2019 2:58 PM in response to m_barrett

Your screenshot is exactly my iMac settings, and my iPhone has both iCloud and and Photo Stream turned on. What happens after 30 days? Will the photo disappear from both Photo Stream and the main Photos folder on my iMac, but remain in iCloud? Or will it disappear from only Photo Stream, and remain in both Photos and iCloud?

Nov 3, 2019 3:23 PM in response to zanzen

Photos in Photo Stream also automatically appear in the top-level Photos folder. What I don't understand -- does that mean the photo is preserved on my iMac, or is it going to disappear from both Stream and Photos in 30 days?

As the Photo Stream "pruning" is unique to Photo Stream, I would expect the photos will not be removed from, for you, the locally stored Photo Library, which is managed separately and manually only.


I would suggest you test this and use the 1000 photo limit instead of the 30 day rule.

Nov 3, 2019 4:07 PM in response to m_barrett

That's exactly what I'm doing, finding the system that works best for me, but I have to understand how the options work to make that decision. I have often, like you, connected my iphone and dumped photos, but I'm thinking of using this more casual method, which is a good way to characterize it. I'm glad to hear that they stay on the Mac after they disappear in 30 days from Photo Stream, because that makes things very easy. But why does a photo disappear from the Photos folder if I manually delete it from Photo Stream? That's what made me concerned that it would not be automatically preserved when it automatically deletes in 30 days. If you are correct, then the photo apparently does not become permanent/preserved on my Mac until the moment that it automatically deletes from Photo Stream. Before that moment, deleting it from Photo Stream also prevents it from being preserved in the Photos folder. I could not find an Apple Support page that explains this.

Nov 3, 2019 5:05 PM in response to LACAllen

Yes, saw that page. It explains, as you highlighted, that deleting from Stream removes the photo from Photo and iCloud. That much I have understood from the beginning. You say it is expected that I will copy the photos from Stream to wherever I wish to keep them. That's how I assumed it would work -- that I would move or copy the photos from Stream to Photos if I want to preserve them in the Photo library on my Mac. But when they go to Stream, they also appear in Photos, so it's not possible to move or copy the photos from Stream to Photos, because they are already in both places. So the question remains: are photos automatically preserved in Photos (and thus, the Photo Library) on the Mac at the moment it disappears from Stream after 30 days? According to m_barrett, that's what apparently happens, but the support page does not make this clear.

Why do my Photo Stream photos also show up in my main Photos library on my iMac?

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