Apps not appearing under location services tab on new Macbook Air

There has been some type of change between Ventura 13.4.1(c) to Ventura 13.5 that effects "Location Services".

That we acknowledge.

As of this writing, there is no documented and supporting evidence provided by Apple as to whether this is a "bug " or something else.

No doubt, this question may act like a " honey pot " and garner much attention.

In the interim - the functionality of Location Services seems to work as intended.

The difference at the moment is the Appearance.

At least that how it has been working on 2 M1 and 1 M2 computers I own and work on each running Ventura 13.5

If you believe this is a Bug and requires the attention by Apple >>

Then have a few suggestions ;

1 - Get Support Choose a product and we’ll find you the best solution.Start now and open an Apple Support Ticket as they are Apple Employees to deal will these types of issues . 

2 - Product Feedback - Apple and make it known to Apple regarding this ongoing issue 

Let us make a last effort not that we expect this to be satisfactory to some

There has been some type of change between Ventura 13.4.1(c) to Ventura 13.5 that effects the appearance of "Location Services".

That we acknowledge. 

As of this writing, there is no documented and supporting evidence provided by Apple as to whether this is a "bug "  or something else.

There are some who say it is a Bug, there are some who say it is problem in Ventura 13.5, there are some who say a fix is imminent and some say, " Not on these forums " the issue is the Third Party Applications needs to be updated by the Developer to work with Location Services in Ventura 13.5

In the interim - the functionality of Location Services is working as intended when using Safari Version 16.6 (18615.3.12.11.2)

At least that how it has been working on 2 M1 and 1 M2 computers I own and work on each running Ventura 13.5 released July 24, 2023

If you believe this is a Bug and requires the attention by Apple >>

Then have a few suggestions ;

1 - Get Support Choose a product and we’ll find you the best solution.Start now and open an Apple Support Ticket as they are Apple Employees to deal will these types of issues . 

2 - Product Feedback - Apple and make it known to Apple regarding this ongoing issue 

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Anna__V wrote:

P. Phillips, how is not being able to use the feature at all equivalent to "working as intended?"

There is no world where "location services seems to work as intended," if you cannot use them at all.

Not seeing the Application listed in Location Services is one thing.

Seeing the effects of Location Services actually working is another thing

To make a parallel in a non Technical and Different way, if you please.

Can one see the air we breathe and fills our lungs - no

But we see the effects of the air each time when breathe in

There are ways to see the functionality of Locations Services in Ventura 13.5

Below are just 2 of several methods to test the functionality or not functionality of Location Services in Ventura 13.5

I'm sure this has probably been reported elsewhere by now, but the most recent 13.5.1 release for Ventura appears to have fixed this issue (for me at least). Now all of the apps that use location services on my MacBook are listed in settings.

Thanks to every who helped identify the issue, it was a huge help for me.

Hablé durante tres días por teléfono con la gente de Apple y no lograba explicarles el error, hasta que un supervisor tomó la llamada y por fin me creyó. En Mexico es un problema porque todas las páginas de bancos por ley solicitan ubicación y si no se da no se puede acceder.

Your first example is only showing that the dialog window works, it doesn't tell anything about the actual location services.

You're arguing semantics. It's the same as if I said I have 1 million of your money. It's yours, definitely. You just can't get it, or do anything with it, or benefit it in any way, shape or form. So do you really have the money, is it yours if you can't use it?

I see your point, but it's like saying "hey your left eyelash is still working" to a quadriplegic. It's techinically correct, but it's only mocking the actual problem.

The reality is, we cannot use the location services with any programs not expressly internally allowed by Apple. There is NO way to turn location services on for a particular program. So, in essence, it doesn't work. Twisting words does not help anyone, but is very efficient in alienating customers. "If" it is a bug? Yeah, and how is it not, when the feature doesn't work how it's supposed to work?

Please, no more semantics, no more twisting of words and no more technically correct. The functionality of Location Services to a regular end-user is not working. It doesn't matter WHAT part of the chain has failed, the point is, that we cannot enable location services for apps we want. That's all that matters.

What I find very interesting is that if I reboot my computer (M1 iMac)with Ventura 13.5, then go to location services in System Settings, I see all the applications appear for a half second then disappear again. So it appears that something is reversing them from appearing in the new code in 13.5. I'm leaning towards this being a bug and not a feature or system improvement by Apple.

Thank you. I've been checking for the past couple of days since posting feedback to Apple about this and included the link to this forum and several other Mac blogs. Just checked again today and wallah! it appeared. Spread the word.

This appears to be a bug introduced with Ventura 13.5. Many of us are looking forward to a fix in an upcoming release, but Apple has made no formal statement.

This was definitely a bug which has been addressed in 13.5.1 that was released earlier today.

Spent hours trying to figure this out. Hulu stopped working. Down graded to Monterey

P. Phillips, how is not being able to use the feature at all equivalent to "working as intended?"

There is no world where "location services seems to work as intended," if you cannot use them at all.

I, for one, am pleased this hanging question, is it a bug or something else, has been put to bed once and for all