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Persistent horizontal lines appear on iMac screen

I am reaching out to share an ongoing issue I, along with several other users, have been experiencing with our iMac 24-inch models, and to seek a collective resolution.


Problem Description:

  • Persistent horizontal lines appear on the screen, which significantly hampers the usability and visual appeal of the device.
  • This problem arises without any physical damage, and despite the stationary nature of the device.


Steps Taken:

  • Connected to an external display: The external display works fine, indicating the issue is with the iMac's internal display.
  • Reinstalled the OS: The problem persisted post reinstallation.
  • Avoided operating the iMac for a week: No change in the situation.


Concerns:

  • The cost of screen replacement is high, and there's no assurance that it will resolve the issue permanently.
  • The quality concern is alarming especially for a brand that positions itself as a premium segment player.
  • The support received thus far has been unsatisfactory, with no definitive solutions provided apart from a costly screen replacement suggestion.





Please do not ask us to visit to service center and replace the screen for 650USD + , problem happens mostly after warranty.


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iMac (M1, 2021)

Posted on Oct 21, 2023 10:40 AM

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Posted on May 19, 2024 8:45 PM

According to the Apple support team I contacted, it's an LCD malfunction and the only solution is to replace it.


What they didn't say was why this problem is occurring after two years of using the iMac on so many computers.


So, as Apple hasn't yet assumed that it's their fault, what I did, given the lack of concrete answers from Apple, was to take my iMac to a technician and ask him to assess the problem to see if it's a construction problem or just a random fault.


The explanation I was given was as follows:


In terms of circuitry, everything seems to be working properly.


The problem, apparently, lies in a cable that also powers the LCD, which is located on one of the tops of the screen, and which, in order to be replaced, requires detaching the screen glass from the LCD itself, which is a very sensitive operation and almost impossible to carry out without damaging the LCD.


So the only option is to replace the entire LCD (LCD+main boards+screen glass).


Also, according to the technician's explanation, this cable (of the FFC/FPC type or Flat Flexible Cable / Flexible Printed Circuit), it has to sustain a very high voltage (around 50V) to power the LCD (this despite the iMac's power supply being 15.9V), and it heats up a lot!


So, what happens after a while (in this case after about 2 years) is that it starts to burn out and degrade at the connector, to the point where it lets the signals leak between the various connectors and short-circuits some of them, which ends up causing those lines that we are all unfortunately familiar with.


The level of brightness makes a fundamental contribution to this problem. Thus, the higher the brightness used, the sooner the problem occurs.


This is easily understood by measuring the difference in temperature at the top of the screen when it is at its lowest brightness level, compared to when it is at its highest. It's quite a big difference!


When it's at its lowest brightness, it's practically room temperature; when it's at its highest, you can almost "fry an egg"!


I think that as soon as Apple recognizes that there is a problem with these computers, the first thing it will do is make a change to the OS that reduces the maximum brightness limit allowed (to less than 500 nits). Time will tell...


Why does this happen?

For at least one of three reasons:

1- a design flaw - so this problem is likely to occur in a large number of devices;

2- a defect in components - the problem is limited to a few cases;

3- use of components below Apple's standards - the problem may be limited, or more widespread.


This was the explanation I was given. I'm not a technician. Only Apple will know the exact reason(s).


If I had to guess, I'd say that I don't believe it's a design fault, because Apple has an obligation to be very careful about that; I also don't think it's a fault with the component(s) because it seems to be happening all over the planet and doesn't seem to be localized; so I think it's due to the use of component(s) below, or at the limit of, Apple's standards which, when put under extreme stress (higher brightness), end up failing.


I think it's already clear to everyone that this is a design or manufacturing defect in this Apple model.


So let's hope that Apple takes on this construction problem and repairs it or at least contributes part of the cost of the (overly expensive) repair of our computers.


If it were a car, surely all our computers would be called into the workshop to replace the component that has broken down or is in the process of breaking down.


As it's a computer... let's hope that Apple will behave in a way that suits its customers, who believe in the above-average Apple standard...


So keep presenting your cases to Apple.

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May 23, 2024 3:24 PM in response to Jotap62

@jot hey - here is how:


  1. I used the normal support channels, to speak to the support through chat
  2. In the chat conversions, I requested to be transferred to a senior representative regarding a special situation that I need the highest level to be able to help me.
  3. I was then scheduled a call with a "senior representative who I Katherine"


Key points:

  1. I kept doing forgiveness work, releasing apple and the situation and I became willing to let it go if they are not willing - so I wasn't coming from an angry voice tone, but from a calm, and genuine voice tone of wanting to fix this together
  2. I made sure I am being calm and I expressed gratitude to apple and told her how I spent over 7K in the past year alone,
  3. She already had seen this thread and she knew and agreed something is not right.


Realizing Apple is a multi-billion dollar company and they really do stand behind their product, now there is enough evidence here for them to help those of us in need.

Feb 9, 2024 10:20 AM in response to Newcompguy12

Revised version of post removed by the moderators.


Update: I decided not to replace the display for $648.00 as I felt the imac might have other problems if this happened after only 30 months. I got an estimate of $105.00 on the Apple trade in page I paid about $1500.00 for. The questionnaire specifically asks if the monitor is fully functional, to which I answered no. That knocked the trade in value way down, to that $105.00 number.


I sent in the imac using the kit they sent. About a week later got an email notification that they revised my trade in amount to $0.00. The reason given was that the display was not fully functional, which is why I was trading it in the first place.


I never mishandled the mac, it is surge protected, and I've never broken a computer I own. My last imac lasted 7 years and I only replaced it for compatibility issues with new software/apps and internet compatibility.


I'll reattach the image of the imac I traded in for zero dollars here. Not only were there lines as you see, but they flashed like a strobe. And yes, I took it in to the genius bar where they said it was the display and the only options were using an external monitor or getting a new display for it at $648.00.


I just want to restate I was not satisfied with this experience.



May 19, 2024 10:29 AM in response to latVm

I am now communicating with a senior advisor from Apple (Katerine) she sounds very professional and empathic and she acknowledges that something strange is taking place with so many cases.


I am forwarding the pictures and data to file a case and trusting the engineers who will review the case will take responsibility and hopefully this will be resolved not just for me but for all of us, please keep all your evidence posted here so they can see the pictures.

May 26, 2024 6:08 PM in response to latVm

I just received my repaired Imac. every thing looks beautiful and it is just like new! It only took 3 days total to fix and I paid zero :)


I am very thankful.


Overal process:

1. Kept apple in good consciousness and practiced released judgment and frustration and remained in forgiveness and non-attached frequency. 2 Reached to chat support and requested senior advisor 3. Had a genuine conversion about my appreciation for apple and how there is a case of manufacturing that can be happy to any company and requested for them to investigate this thread - as it is well documented. (Thanks to all of you) 4. She forwarded it to engineers and requested the photos and files from me, and within a few days had been approved for repair.


I trust this can be done for all the other people with the same issue and hopefully in the future if it happened again they can upgrade us to a newer model. May be we can all get an M3 ? :P


Talk soon!

Jun 22, 2024 9:40 AM in response to VanCitySean

Friends, I was able to communicate with the senior support and they gave me free repair beyond warantee!


Here are the steps to use to do the same.


1. Submit the evidence and pictures on here Persistent horizontal lines appear on iMa… - Apple Community

2. Contact Mac and file a case using the steps below to speak with politeness and professionalism.

* Immediately ask for a manager and senior rep.

. Share the evidence that this is a well documented break down on Apple's manufacturing and state how long you have been a customer.

. Submit request for investigation. Then wait patiently.

Here are some perspectives you can take when negotiating with Apple

1. Known Issue:

  1. Gather Evidence: Search online forums and news articles documenting similar screen issues with the 2021 M1 iMac 24". Highlight the number of affected users (hundreds) to demonstrate the widespread nature of the problem.
  2. Present Calmly: State that you've discovered numerous reports of similar screen failures on M1 iMacs beyond warranty, suggesting a potential design or manufacturing flaw.

2. Reasonable Request:

  1. Focus on a Solution: Don't just express frustration. Acknowledge their standard warranty policy but politely request a one-time exception due to the documented issue.
  2. Be Open to Options: Express your willingness to consider a repair at a discounted rate or a partial store credit towards a newer model, depending on what they offer.

3. Emphasize Loyalty:

  1. Positive Past Experiences: Briefly mention your history of using Apple products and your overall satisfaction (if applicable).
  2. Future Customer: Express your hope to continue using Apple products but highlight that a fair resolution would solidify your trust in the brand.

Additional Tips:

  1. Be Polite and Professional: Maintain a calm and respectful tone throughout the conversation.
  2. Be Persistent: If your initial request is denied, politely ask to speak with a supervisor or manager and reiterate your points.
  3. Document Everything: Keep copies of emails, chat transcripts, or call recordings if possible.


Here's an example script you can adapt:

"Hi, I'm contacting you about my 2021 M1 iMac 24" that recently developed lines on the screen. Unfortunately, it's beyond the warranty period.

While researching the issue, I came across numerous online reports of similar screen failures with this specific model. This suggests a potential widespread problem.

I understand your warranty policy, but I would greatly appreciate it if you could consider a one-time exception due to the documented issue. I'm a loyal Apple customer and would be happy to discuss options like a discounted repair or store credit towards a newer model.

Thank you for your time and consideration."

Remember, negotiation is a conversation. Be prepared to listen to their response and be flexible within reason.

By presenting your case with evidence, a reasonable request, and a positive tone, you increase your chances of a favorable outcome.



May 21, 2024 6:01 AM in response to latVm

Hello everyone,

I'm experiencing the same issue. After turning off my Mac one day and powering it back on the next, multiple lines suddenly appeared on the display. My iMac has always been up to date, and even after reinstalling macOS, the problem persists. I hope Apple issues a recall, as my computer is just out of warranty. This shouldn't happen to a €1700 computer that's only three years old.

Apr 20, 2024 5:50 AM in response to latVm

Is Apple not aware of this issue or just trying to ignore? I am also located in Singapore, went to Apple Service Center last Sept 2023 and was quoted of SGD900++ to fix the issue. Very expensive and this is not caused randomly by any mishandling, this is really an issue on Apple's hardware and design of this iMac model.

I did not proceed to have it fixed, I just bought a second hand monitor and attached to this iMac for just $100.

But then again, Apple should not ignore this. How we can make this a trending topic in Social Media? Once this trends, I am sure Apple will do something as that will affect their future sales.

Any suggestion to make this trending? Maybe we can post a video in Youtube and TikTok?

Jun 20, 2024 7:38 AM in response to latVm

My screen started flickering two days ago, June 18, 2024. I got my iMac 24' on March 14, 2022, with an M1 chip. I read the entire discussion. It is, for sure, Apple being sloppy, faulty and even rudely arrogant. Nothing else. They want to enforce Apple Care.

All screens went terrible after two years and a few months.

It begins with patchy flickers here and there, keeps widening and covers your entire screen, making your iMac unusable after a few days.

I would suggest getting a decent external screen. Ditch this old one. No use getting it repaired with no warranty and a one hundred per cent certainty that the replacement will also bite the dust after two years. And APPLE DOESN'T CARE at all! They want money. No accountability.

Persistent horizontal lines appear on iMac screen

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