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Persistent horizontal lines appear on iMac screen

I am reaching out to share an ongoing issue I, along with several other users, have been experiencing with our iMac 24-inch models, and to seek a collective resolution.


Problem Description:

  • Persistent horizontal lines appear on the screen, which significantly hampers the usability and visual appeal of the device.
  • This problem arises without any physical damage, and despite the stationary nature of the device.


Steps Taken:

  • Connected to an external display: The external display works fine, indicating the issue is with the iMac's internal display.
  • Reinstalled the OS: The problem persisted post reinstallation.
  • Avoided operating the iMac for a week: No change in the situation.


Concerns:

  • The cost of screen replacement is high, and there's no assurance that it will resolve the issue permanently.
  • The quality concern is alarming especially for a brand that positions itself as a premium segment player.
  • The support received thus far has been unsatisfactory, with no definitive solutions provided apart from a costly screen replacement suggestion.





Please do not ask us to visit to service center and replace the screen for 650USD + , problem happens mostly after warranty.


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iMac (M1, 2021)

Posted on Oct 21, 2023 10:40 AM

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Posted on May 19, 2024 8:45 PM

According to the Apple support team I contacted, it's an LCD malfunction and the only solution is to replace it.


What they didn't say was why this problem is occurring after two years of using the iMac on so many computers.


So, as Apple hasn't yet assumed that it's their fault, what I did, given the lack of concrete answers from Apple, was to take my iMac to a technician and ask him to assess the problem to see if it's a construction problem or just a random fault.


The explanation I was given was as follows:


In terms of circuitry, everything seems to be working properly.


The problem, apparently, lies in a cable that also powers the LCD, which is located on one of the tops of the screen, and which, in order to be replaced, requires detaching the screen glass from the LCD itself, which is a very sensitive operation and almost impossible to carry out without damaging the LCD.


So the only option is to replace the entire LCD (LCD+main boards+screen glass).


Also, according to the technician's explanation, this cable (of the FFC/FPC type or Flat Flexible Cable / Flexible Printed Circuit), it has to sustain a very high voltage (around 50V) to power the LCD (this despite the iMac's power supply being 15.9V), and it heats up a lot!


So, what happens after a while (in this case after about 2 years) is that it starts to burn out and degrade at the connector, to the point where it lets the signals leak between the various connectors and short-circuits some of them, which ends up causing those lines that we are all unfortunately familiar with.


The level of brightness makes a fundamental contribution to this problem. Thus, the higher the brightness used, the sooner the problem occurs.


This is easily understood by measuring the difference in temperature at the top of the screen when it is at its lowest brightness level, compared to when it is at its highest. It's quite a big difference!


When it's at its lowest brightness, it's practically room temperature; when it's at its highest, you can almost "fry an egg"!


I think that as soon as Apple recognizes that there is a problem with these computers, the first thing it will do is make a change to the OS that reduces the maximum brightness limit allowed (to less than 500 nits). Time will tell...


Why does this happen?

For at least one of three reasons:

1- a design flaw - so this problem is likely to occur in a large number of devices;

2- a defect in components - the problem is limited to a few cases;

3- use of components below Apple's standards - the problem may be limited, or more widespread.


This was the explanation I was given. I'm not a technician. Only Apple will know the exact reason(s).


If I had to guess, I'd say that I don't believe it's a design fault, because Apple has an obligation to be very careful about that; I also don't think it's a fault with the component(s) because it seems to be happening all over the planet and doesn't seem to be localized; so I think it's due to the use of component(s) below, or at the limit of, Apple's standards which, when put under extreme stress (higher brightness), end up failing.


I think it's already clear to everyone that this is a design or manufacturing defect in this Apple model.


So let's hope that Apple takes on this construction problem and repairs it or at least contributes part of the cost of the (overly expensive) repair of our computers.


If it were a car, surely all our computers would be called into the workshop to replace the component that has broken down or is in the process of breaking down.


As it's a computer... let's hope that Apple will behave in a way that suits its customers, who believe in the above-average Apple standard...


So keep presenting your cases to Apple.

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Feb 9, 2024 8:24 PM in response to latVm

I have this issue, M1 iMac purchased in Tokyo, Japan in 2022. It seems to be a problem in Asian countries mostly. I was working on a simple Google Doc, rubbed my eyes, and when I looked again the black lines appeared. Right in the center third of the screen. It's extremely annoying. And of course I don't have Apple Care...


This has been a noted issue on the iFixit site:

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It does not actually seem to be that difficult to replace the screen. Has anyone tried to replace the screen themselves? There are a number of videos on YouTube for this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uBjMr--idKo


But I'm wondering if I should just get an external monitor instead. It's very frustrating. I've been bragging to my friends about this M1 iMac for years now. "Buy a Mac," I say. "They're pricey but they'll last at least five years!" I am eating my words now. I have an M2 MacBook Pro that I also really like...am I going to have this problem with it in two years?


Apple, fix this. When people bring these 2021 M1 iMacs into the store, fix them for free. It's really lame to get just two years out of this computer, when it clearly can go for several more.



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Oct 21, 2023 12:50 PM in response to latVm

"They charged ne 30USD for inspection"


Who exactly is "they"? In the US, the Apple in-store diagnostic is certainly free; I've taken advantage of that twice in the last six months.


If there is a "consumer product protection" agency in your country. I suggest you file a complain. Please post the final results of that here if you choose to do so ... if you can file such a complaint of course.


Considering the millions of Apple Macs worldwide, the number of complains here is an exceedingly small percentage of the whole. Problems happen for sure, but just because it happens to you does not mean it happens to many. That's known as a "hasty generalization".

Mar 31, 2024 7:55 AM in response to latVm

So the issue started appearing 3 days ago on the iMac M1 I bought when it first came out, almost 3 years ago.


For reference, model number is Z14M000RWFN/A.


Maybe we should look into the models we got, if this is due to an heating issue, it could have to do with the fact that the base models iMac (similar to the one I got) only have a single fan, whereas the 4 TB4/USB-3 ports models have two of those.


I'm kinda disappointed with all the iMacs I've had tbh. My first 2009 iMac had the yellow screen issue, my 2014 iMac 5K had ghosting issues, and now this one. In retrospective, maybe it was not a bad move from Apple to discontinue the high-end iMac line, given they all have some kind of widespread screen issues.

Apr 25, 2024 8:29 PM in response to latVm

This problem was posted 6 months ago and there is still no solution?


This happened to me yesterday and I thought leaving it a day would solve the issue. Now I am looking for solutions online and the amount of users experiencing this is shocking. I’ve been using my iMac for a little over 2 years as well. What’s happening? Apple, do something.

May 30, 2024 3:54 AM in response to latVm

I bought my iMac 24 M3 on May 8, 2024. And everything was fine until I noticed today May 30, 2024 a flickering at the bottom of the screen that is only visible on a gray background, but after a couple of reboots the flickering stopped. As I understand it is definitely related to overheating. I also took a video, I have the Apple warranty, but it still seems to be a problem with all new iMacs.

https://youtu.be/cxE7hrMiO10 - flickering

https://youtu.be/K4tWXNXFSn8 - non flickering.

Oct 17, 2024 4:09 PM in response to latVm

Nearly a year after reporting this problem to Apple I got a call today from someone about this issue. They knew the date I took in my computer to be assessed and knew about this forum which is where they get a lot of their info. The call was from an official Mac number, I checked.

Anyway it just made everything way worse. We went through the problem, what I did, what the Apple store told me, how much it was going to cost for a new display and why I decided just to get a new Imac. We also went through how the official Apple site tell you to send in your "old" Mac for credit toward your new one and how when I did that they adjusted my credit/refund down to zero because of some alleged smudges on the display.

So the caller had asked me if I still had the computer and told me if I did they could have replaced it for free.

So if I had held on to the defective item for a year, not chosen to get the credit for it which they denied anyway, I could have got a free replacement, which seems to be them acknowledging responsibility on some level.

But no, this call just served to tell me not only did they sell me a bad product, then deny the credit they indicated was due, but now are taunting me with "you could have had a new one for free." Ha ha. Wow.

To be clear, the caller was very nice and helpful and was doing her job trying to gather info, but I don't get why Apple would run things this way.

Apr 21, 2024 8:45 PM in response to g0dfr3y

Got into a chat with Apple Customer Support. I guess it would help if all of us here will do a chat to Apple and provide this discussion link to them --> Persistent horizontal lines appear on iMa… - Apple Community


Letting Apple know will give traction on this issue. It is really absurd for Apple to charge us big amount of money to fix this hardware issue.


See the picture of my display with the chat and notice the horizontal lines below the screen.


Jan 24, 2024 3:35 AM in response to latVm

I am having the same problem. I've had this iMac more than two years. The lines start to appear recently and never disppear. I suspect it is related to the mac os upgrade however as I couldn't revert the os back to its original.


Hopefully Apple staff could give us some clue why would this happen. In the last 15 years, I used so many Apple Macs and never ever had such issue before.


Feb 16, 2024 12:30 PM in response to latVm

I am having the same issue as you all. I was using my iMac today and suddenly this grey bar has appeared on the bottom part of the display (see picture). I've tried restarting, updating but it's still there. When connected to an external display there is no grey bar on that.


I bought my iMac in August 2021 so just over 2 years. This cannot be a coincidence that this is happening to all our iMacs that are over 2 years. This is either caused by a recent software update or this is a hardware failure. Either way this is unacceptable for an Apple product. These iMacs should last a minimum of 5 years before any problems.


I am going to contact Apple support and see what they say. I refuse to replace the display for > £600 when this issue can return again.



Apr 14, 2024 9:59 PM in response to latVm


I got an iMac (24”, M1, 2021) in July 2021 when it first came out, almost 3 years ago. It has been in daily use since; however, last week flickering black horizontal lines suddenly started appearing in the bottom half of the screen.


Even after restarting and updating, the annoying lines keep appearing on the screen, making it unusable. Turned the iMac off for a few days, but the problem persists. Apart from the screen, everything else is working as it should.


It’s very frustrating to use the iMac with these unnoticeable, irritating horizontal lines on the screen. It's such a disappointment to see this issue; without a cause, within such short time.

Oct 21, 2023 1:39 PM in response to stumpy1946

Thanks!. We don't have Apple support here, It's mostly Apple authorized service centers outside US. They decide the service pricing.


Yes, it's not like I can't afford another one or repair, but it annoys me to see that way things are, it worse than cheap companies here. Yes court action is in progress.


Exactly, but it's not worth make that "small percentage" suffer? Accept that there there is some fault in the product, take actions to avoid it, provide some option for customers fix, instead of saying "You brought it, we don't care". There is nothing like "Replacement" once a product is brought, which is unfair sale practice, and yes, Apple policies are not above the law.


With this post ( which I know Apple don't care ), but hope it helps someone to take some action.

Persistent horizontal lines appear on iMac screen

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