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MacStudio Thunderbolt ports "Inactive"

I have a MacStudio

M2 Max

64 GB

Sonoma14.5


I am trying to install a driver for a TLNS 3102. The connection from box to MacStudio is a USB-C connection.

2 ports are being used for monitors I cant seem to get a connection detected.

Mac Studio (2023)

Posted on Jun 12, 2024 9:06 AM

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Posted on Jun 12, 2024 10:07 AM

Grant Bennet-Alder wrote:

ONLY genuine Thunderbolt devices will be shown on the pane you posted.


The network adapter in question is a Thunderbolt 3 device ("Compatible with Thunderbolt 4"). See the link that the OP posted:

https://shop.atto.com/products/dual-40gb-thunderbolt-to-dual-10gbe-adapter-sfp-s-included

and its linked data sheet:

https://www.atto.com/wp-content/uploads/WebCollateral/tech-spec/TechSpecs-ATTOThunderLinkN33102.pdf


I think the issue is likely to be simply that there is no active SFP+ connection between the ATTO adapter and some other SFP+-equipped device.


"Not connected" would follow directly from that, and the "Inactive" status for the Thunderbolt ports could be just a reflection of that. They are inactive simply because there is nothing for them to do (with regards to SFP+ links). Not because they're not working.

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Jun 12, 2024 10:07 AM in response to Grant Bennet-Alder

Grant Bennet-Alder wrote:

ONLY genuine Thunderbolt devices will be shown on the pane you posted.


The network adapter in question is a Thunderbolt 3 device ("Compatible with Thunderbolt 4"). See the link that the OP posted:

https://shop.atto.com/products/dual-40gb-thunderbolt-to-dual-10gbe-adapter-sfp-s-included

and its linked data sheet:

https://www.atto.com/wp-content/uploads/WebCollateral/tech-spec/TechSpecs-ATTOThunderLinkN33102.pdf


I think the issue is likely to be simply that there is no active SFP+ connection between the ATTO adapter and some other SFP+-equipped device.


"Not connected" would follow directly from that, and the "Inactive" status for the Thunderbolt ports could be just a reflection of that. They are inactive simply because there is nothing for them to do (with regards to SFP+ links). Not because they're not working.

Jun 12, 2024 5:33 PM in response to Grant Bennet-Alder

Grant Bennet-Alder wrote:

look in System preferences > networks:


It is in the OP's System Settings > Networks.


Looks to me like there must have been a Fiber entry for the ATTO device. The screen shot appears consistent with the OP


  • Clicking on the Fiber > entry to drill down into the top-level detail screen, then
  • Clicking on the Details… button on that screen


The left side of the Details screen is consistent across interface types. The right side varies with interface type. Whoever designed this one apparently thought that the user would want to see which Thunderbolt ports were actively engaged in carrying SFP+ traffic.

Jun 12, 2024 9:48 AM in response to BeskarMagnet

the usb-c ports on the back of the Mac studio are universal... until a device is plugged in. at that point they become specialized to the specific device plugged in.


if you have plugged in a USB-C display or adapter, you will find the information for that on the USB-C pane or the Graphics/Displays pane.


ONLY genuine Thunderbolt devices will be shown on the pane you posted.


if you do intend to connect TWO fiber optic cable connections to this device, its very high cost might be justifiable. However, there are FAR less expensive solutions, including that the built-in Ethernet port on the Mac Studio is ALREADY 10G Ethernet-over-copper capable, right out of the box.

Jun 12, 2024 9:57 AM in response to BeskarMagnet

Do you have a cable with SFP+ connections on it running from a SFP+ port on your ATTO Thunderlink NIC box to a SFP+ port on another networking device?


I think you're going to need at least Layer 2 connectivity – there's a cable to another SFP+ device, the SFP+ ports are enabled on both sides, the SFP+ modules are compatible with the ATTO Thunderlink box and the other device into which you are plugging them – before you can get anything other than "Not connected."


You'll also need to set up other parameters (TCP/IP, DNS) to get TCP/IP network traffic going across the interface.

Jun 12, 2024 6:57 PM in response to Servant of Cats

I am so sorry. I was thinking this was the dressed up "System Report" with extra fru-fru in Sonoma.

I see what you are all trying to tell me now. I stand corrected.


Instead, this a dressed up four-port NETWORK sub-pane (while the specific device at hand happens to have only two ports).


Now I agree that what Servant of Cats has been saying all long is likely correct -- you don't see any source ThunderBolt port Active because they are not talking ... yet.


For Ethernet, unless your port sees idle-syncs coming from the other end of the cable, you typically get "cable not connected" error. You look over and curse, "Yes it IS plugged in!" They meant to say, 'not actively talking end-to-end'.

Jun 13, 2024 9:59 AM in response to BeskarMagnet

<< trying to install a driver >>


You already HAVE the appropriate driver if you see this network pane.

If no Driver, it could NOT show up as a network device at all.


<<. The connection from box to MacStudio is a USB-C connection. >>


You need to be using a high quality genuine Thunderbolt cable, with the Thunderbolt trademark (like a bolt of lightning) at each end. For Apple cables, the length is limited to 0.8 meters or less. For brand-X cables, the length is limited to 0.5 meters or less. Longer cables may cause errors and reduce the speeds. USB-C cables will not work for this use, because they have only half the data pathways of Thunderbolt cables.


¿is the fiber-optic cable plugged in yet?


Once there is another device at the other end of the fiber-optic cable, it should all perk up and be fine, and the indicators should change to reflect that connection, and can be fine-tuned, if required.

Jun 12, 2024 9:57 AM in response to Grant Bennet-Alder

Thank you,

At the moment fiber is a medium used for a NAS. I would like to use the preexisting 10G copper but we are currently limited to 5.


How would I determine if a device is genuine thunderbolt compliant ?

This device is currently connected to other MacStudios, MacPros, MacBooks.


I saw a suggestion that I should Try to add a new network location and switch to it.

Would you support that suggestion ?

MacStudio Thunderbolt ports "Inactive"

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