Since updating this morning when I move windows around on my cinematic display they JUMP to full screen if I even get close to the top of the screen. How do I make this STOP!
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Sep 28, 2024 11:50 AM in response to d.s.cobb
Thanks for confirming, @d.s.cobb! That's exactly the faulty behavior I had reported via Apple Feedback.
Here, it's a Mac Mini M2 Pro with a Dell UltraSharp 40" monitor (U4021QW). And that turned out to be the problem.
As suggested by Dell, I had installed Dell's DDPM software, and allowed it to open automatically on startup. That software has a feature called EasyArrange which allows, among other things, window tiling just like in Sequoia. I've never used it, though, and wasn't aware it was seemingly turned on (maybe it wasn't). For more than a year, it hasn't caused any issues.
Now that changed when updating to Sequoia. Don't ask me how this is possible, but the new macOS window tiling feature seems to have enabled the DDPM EasyArrange feature, with no way of disabling it.
From there on, fixing the issue was easy: Quit DDPM, and the nasty behavior immediately goes away. Go to Settings, Login Items & Extensions, Open at Login, and remove DDPM, so that it doesn't load on startup. Problem solved. This also explains why most people in this thread didn't encounter the problem the way I did.
it's not only to do with 'like' - I can handle that, I do know my way around the system to apply settings. …
What the problem is here is that this feature cannot be switched off, even when all the appropriate sliders are in the 'off' state!
(Sorry … Dutch)
I cannot really simulate the old state with the green button (… it has disappeared), but the current state DOES look like it could be a bug, or at least a design error: both state ar similar, with or without the +
Jo! wrote:
it's not only to do with 'like' - I can handle that, I do know my way around the system to apply settings. …
What the problem is here is that this feature cannot be switched off, even when all the appropriate sliders are in the 'off' state!
https://discussions.apple.com/content/attachment/bd7f2e47-e23e-4788-88c4-1ffa48794f54
(Sorry … Dutch)
I cannot really simulate the old state with the green button (… it has disappeared), but the current state DOES look like it could be a bug, or at least a design error: both state ar similar, with or without the +
There a few posts that say Dell monitor software causes window tiling. Perhaps you have something installed that is doing it or re-enabling it. It seems the vast majority of users have no issues turning it off.
Jo! wrote:
There a few posts that say Dell monitor software causes window tiling. Perhaps you have something installed that is doing it or re-enabling it. It seems the vast majority of users have no issues turning it off.
what you are also saying here is that the '+' in the green button should actually behave like it used to prior to Sequoia with alle settings switched off?
No, the Green dot is now relegated to Full Screen or window Tiling.
Turning off the Tiling settings just affects the drag to Tile options.
Disable the Tiling options in System Settings > Desktop & Dock > Windows.
That doesn't turn off tiling. It's a bug in Sequoia that I (and probably many others) have reported via Feedback Assistant. 3 Sequoia updates later, it's still not fixed.
CesareMedici wrote:
@dialabrain It's a Sequoia issue in any case. Why would Dell's DDPM software start behaving differently from how it did for more than a year?
Because macOS Sequoia changed and Dell's software didn't.
I'm not blaming Apple for this, but any major change can have inadvertent consequences.
Apple does not write macOS and add features to stay compatible with third-party software. It's up to third-party software vendors to remain compatible with the latest versions. It's very simple.
all very well, but that does not address the fact that a function of the green blob on the left topcorner has changed, and cannot be reverted, even not with the functions of tiling etc in the system settings switched of.
Before Sequoia (Sonoma and earlier) pressing the option-key changed the green ting to a +, meaning it would size the window (fe a pages document) nicely to its size, and no more. This function has disappeared. there is still a ≠ appearing, but I still get these tiling-options: there is no difference!
so either I am being annoying, or there is something wrong here!
(my system is Dutch, but the functions are the same.
Jo! wrote:
That does not show the original behavior of the green button from before sequoia.
optionkey down used to allow window resizing as a toggle: this way it was easy to fit a document exactly in its own window.
is there no one who knows how to turn it of in terminal??
Zoom from the Green dot is gone. They slowly killed it with Full Screen. Now tiling has ended its existence.
You can set double-click on title bar to zoom in Desktop & Dock preferences.
how do I disable automatic window resizin… - Apple Community
You are not crazy, Paul2727! I have the very same behavior here – Drag windows to menu bar to fill screen will not stay disabled, no matter how many times I toggle it off.
Never mind that it's not at all intuitie to even find these settings in System Settings. How do these Windows features fit under Desktop and Dock??
I have found that, despite disabling all the windows features in Settings, some apps continue to open full screen, namely, PHOTOS.
By moving the window even slightly w/ the mouse it goes back to a smaller size.
Feel free to send Apple feedback.
OMG, I just upgraded to Sequoia 15.1.1 and the tiling option (Drag windows to menu bar to fill screen) was again turned on!!!! How very annoying!
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GAWD, that's an annoying default setting! Geez!
I must have a different version than everyone else. I just move the window slightly and the tile outline goes away and I can place the window anywhere. Does it not work like that for you?
Apple always defaults new toys to On.
None of the suggestions resolved this issue for me. I am using two monitors - one laptop display and one 30" display. Windows move and stack (and don't tile) fine on the laptop display. However, any window that's dragged to the larger display causes two transparent boxes appear delineating the left and right halves of the screen - one outlined by yellow and one outlined by green. When I release the mouse over either of these boxes, the window being moved is resized to 1/2 the screen and tiled into that side of the display. I have ALL the tiling options disabled. This behavior started with Sequoia betas and still manifests in the GA release.
CesareMedici wrote:
@dialabrain Never assume everyone's using the exact same setup as you. (In my case, it was a combination of Dell's DDPM monitor software and the Sequoia update that caused this hard-to-debug issue.)
I don't. And in your case it was the Dell software not being compatible with Sequoia. Not a Sequoia issue.
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