how do I disable automatic window resizing in Sequoia

I completely agree. SW interoperability and compatibility is an incredibly complex subject, so you need to be able to take a look at a lot of different configs and user experiences to make these determinations. Thanks for the help.

I can assure you, based on 40 years in the Operating System business, that anytime an OS release breaks layered SW that uses supported public APIs, its developers would consider it a bug.

Without apps, an OS along is useless to anyone except programmers, so OS developers work VERY HARD to maintain backward compatibility, while ALSO releasing new features. If they need to break compatibility, they deprecate said API and announce an end-of-life release after which apps are no longer guaranteed to work. It is exactly these values that make Apple and MacOS beloved in the developer world.

Of course @dialabrain. And if said developer suspects that a supported public interface has been broken, they are entitled and expected to file it as a bug - beta is as much a service to Apple as it is to the developer. Whether or when Apple fixes the broken API or the developer works around the bug is a business decision made by each party. It doesn't change the fact that breaking a supported public interface is a bug.

I disabled that as soon as I got this version. I have turned off everything that I can find and I still can't get my desktop windows to work right. I have no idea why Apple believes that the only way we will love their x-dates is by turning them on and not mapping how to turn them off. If this were an airplane it would not fly.

WigglyWaggly wrote:

Thank you! I am sure someone requested this feature, but nice to know you can make it go away.

I really have no need for it, but it is probably one of the most requested features I have seen on these forums.However, I don’t see how it’s obtrusive at all. I move my window where I want it. A little outline pops up. I moved the window a little bit more and the little outline goes away. I drop my window where I wanted it.

Quanxi wrote:

Thanks for this help. I hated this. The feature might be great, but dumb thing to make it default.

Love to customize things. But please, let us choose what we want.

Apple has never made a new feature off by default. Maybe the Application Firewall, but that’s completely useless so maybe doesn’t count.

The thing is, I WANT to tile windows by going to the screen edge. I do NOT want them to resize to my full 48" monitor when I do it. The resizing behavior happens to me any time I try to move a window, whether it hits the top of the screen or not. Super annoying. I guess I will go back to Magnet - https://apps.apple.com/us/app/magnet/id441258766?mt=12

The resizing behavior happens to me any time I try to move a window, whether it hits the top of the screen or not.

The window tiling feature of Sequoia doesn't do that. It should only do that when you hit an edge. Even then, it doesn't tile unless you release it with the tile showing. Move a little and the tile marquee disappears.

D.S. Cobb: Thanks for your solution! I disabled tiling, but that didn't work. I had no idea it would be the monitor until I read your post. I have a Dell and followed your instructions and the automatic resizing stopped.

Wouldn’t that be nice if it was true. I am not the only one here reporting the issue. I rarely get the marquee. It just resizes. The whole 48”. I have tried always moving down first just to be sure it isn’t resizing as a result of hitting the top. Nope. Doesn’t help.

cgapperi wrote:

Wouldn’t that be nice if it was true. I am not the only one here reporting the issue. I rarely get the marquee. It just resizes. The whole 48”. I have tried always moving down first just to be sure it isn’t resizing as a result of hitting the top. Nope. Doesn’t help.

I’ve also seen reported here where people with Dell monitors have some sort of software installed. That does automatically resize the window when you move it.There is a momentary delay before the marquee appears and if you only delay that long and it is essentially popping up, but you don’t see it Then it would do that to you and appear to be instantaneous, but it’s not

I have a similar problem!

I recently upgraded to Sequoia.

Yes, I could not resist, though the advice was to not bother - most options do not work here in NL. I am an 'ancient' Mac user ☀️, started in 1991, my first Macs were a plus and a Macintosh II with macOS 4, and back in the days, a new os was quite a thing and you couldn't wait to find out what all the new features were.

I first noticed the problem in Pages.

What I do when I open a template from Pages is change the appearance.

Somehow pages needs to open standard with the info-sidebar on the right (very annoying! 😡 - wish I could change that too).

The first thing I do, for lack of an alternative, is press option-command-"I" which makes the sidebar go away. Next thing I do (or did) is click on the green button with the optionkey pressed. I still changes to a "+", but now does something completely different (even more annoying! 😡 😡 😡)

Before (Sonoma and previous) the window of the file would then fit the size of the document. Now it does not do that, even though I have all options in settings switched off (who needs it anyway??? 😕 👎).

Million dollar Question:

Is there a way, maybe through terminal, to 'kill' it all together?

This thing actually would be a reason for me to downgrade, if that were possible!, since this interrupts my workflow badly!

Before Sequoia I had the latest version of Sonoma which did not have this problem.

My Mac:

thank you for your patience and help!!

BDAqua wrote:

Jo!, try this App...

https://apps.apple.com/us/app/magnet/id441258766?mt=12

but how will an app that seems to do the same and costs money on top of that help me to get rid of the tiling al together? I want the 'old' function of option-klick the green button, which sizes the document to its size, and no more. That function has disappeared (see other post for screenshots)

Is there maybe a possible command through Terminal to switch this off??

I went to Sys settings->Desktop & Dock->Windows and turned off all four switches there. However if I come back and look again, the "Drag windows to menu bar to fill screen" stays on. This is something I definitely do not want. Why can't I turn it off?

Although turning off each and every one of the new "Tiling" functions in system preferences diminishes the effect - it does NOT remove it altogether. There is SOMETHING, some elusive "gesture" that normal Mac users do dragging windows here and there - that still causes the window to "maximize" (not to "Full screen" mode - just take the whole size of your current screen), which drives me nuts.

Old Mac users like myself (since 1987) are pretty strict with where their windows should be and what size they are. I find myself cursing again and again, trying in vain to maintain my "work bench" so I can see things I need together, drag things from one window to another quickly etc.

This is - again - Apple crumbling down on us. The Mac really "gets in your way" nowadays. Zillion authentications, Zillion "no, you can't do that", Lots of functionality REMOVED from apple Apps, in favor of more and more cluttered eye-candy visual effects that help NOTHING with your work and fun.

Even the "Focus" feature (presumably made to help user stay in Focus) takes all your focus for itself!!! what huge configuration strain and things just "happen" all the time while you're trying to work.

This issue with Windows is just the last straw.

It's time some decent engineers left Apple to write a new operating system-- for the rest of us.