No longer possible to convert .itl library files on my Big Sur Mac

For over a decade I've been using iTunes on Windows, while often making a copy on an external drive in order to use it on an old Mac (2014 version). With the introduction of Apple Music things got a bit more complicated but so far it always worked... till today. While using the option key to open a new library I get a pop up saying the .itl file is 'not valid' and I should chose a different library or create a new one.


Been checking and trying a few things out myself and updated from version 11.4 to 11.7 (seems to be the maximum update for this machine). Been reading about similar issues with Monterey but iOS 11.7 is still Big Sure so that shouldn't be a problem to be compatible with iTunes files. The .itl is also not corrupted, I linked the exact copy to iTunes on Windows and it works fine there. Checked permission acces on the Mac, all is available to read and write. Tried to do it the other way around and chose to import the playlist from within Apple Music but I get the same error, now saying the file is not a valid 'export file' instead of not being a valid 'file'. Then tried to import the xml file, I red about that option in a different sub here saying it would generate all data except from 'date added' but when I do that I only get the music purchased from Apple while my imported CD's (big majority) remain excluded. All help is appreciated here...


MacBook Pro 15″, macOS 11.4

Posted on Jan 22, 2025 5:52 AM

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Posted on Jan 22, 2025 7:51 AM

Hi,


It was all straightforward when iTunes was updated in parallel for Mac and Windows at the same time, and the library was cross platform compatible. The Mojave version of iTunes broke that somewhat as it became an OS component that Apple updated when they felt like it. With Music in Catalina it became more complicated as, as far as I can tell, Music only considers iTunes libraries created by Mojave as valid. Older .itl files don't work. There is a separate issue with Monterey where it just stalls when attempting to convert what would otherwise be valid .itl libraries.


If you'd like to send me your .itl file (email in profile) I can try converting it to a .musiclibrary package, but success may depend on which version of iTunes for Window the library was created by. When using the XML export/import route the import phase only works if you've edited the XML file such that it correctly uses the paths that you've copied the files to on the new computer. Failing this all you see is your purchase history, assuming that you are signed into your Apple Account.


The other approach you could use is to take out a temporary subscription to Apple Music, which would let you clone the library from one machine to the other. After you download all content in the cloud you could turn off Sync Library in both computers and then cancel the subscription renewal, assuming you no longer want it.


tt2

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Jan 29, 2025 1:01 AM in response to turingtest2

Wouldn't call Apple's way to take care of the matter a solution but an alternative. Paying for a sync service that does nothing else but syncing - preferably in one direction only - would not be an issue for me. But since they unnecessarily seem to interfear in data and even replace ripped CD's it scares me to try.


Meanwhile the xml procedure is finished, but only loaded about 75% of the songs and no playlists at all. Images however did appear. I expected a full succes or a full failure, don't really get what happened. But it was worth trying of course so thank you for the edit.


Now I wanted to get back to the other library but that one doesn't load the music anymore. Perhaps because I pointed to the same media in the xml attempt which might have messed things up.


So it seems like the two option left are firstly getting over my fear and subscribe to Apple Music. But at least I hope nothing would be changed in the source library (Windows), if necessary I'd end / disable the subscription right after the transfer (when possible).

The other solution is the way as described on January 24th, which gave me all music and playlists. Ordinary playlists were empty but the smart playlists based on other smart playlists did work. Not perfect but for my needs this result is good enough as a functional copy to use for Serato.


Nathan



Jan 29, 2025 2:04 AM in response to cdnathan

I neglected to mention iTunes Match, which is cheaper than Apple Music, and limited to your own content rather than giving you access to an additional catalog that you can play on demand and add at will, however both services are limited to 100,000 tracks (excluding iTunes Store purchases) which I suspect makes them unsuitable for you.


I too was hoping for more from the XML edit. I did it using the Music library that Sequoia had generated. I should perhaps try again starting with the original Windows version of the library in case details were lost in translation somewhere.


tt2

Jan 29, 2025 2:35 AM in response to turingtest2

About 3.3k are iTunes purchases so in theory both Apple services would work. But not for much longer. By the second half of this year I will probably reach the limit with own material (ripped CD's and an estimate of 1k mp3's).


If you think there's a possibility to make the xml option work I'd like to keep on trying. But since we already experimented so much I will first clear the LaCie with the copy. In case the next attempt also fails we'll not have to refer to media / data that has been touched by the earlier experiments.

Will create the new copy offline overnight and e-mail you the new .xml tomorrow. Thanks for not giving up and keep on thinking to help out.


Nathan

Jan 30, 2025 4:45 PM in response to cdnathan

Solved! With the 'right' xml the whole procedure of importing didn't took 30 hours like last week but only 4 hours. This time not only the smart playlists are functional but also the regular playlists are fully here with all their content. Images are still loading but I suppose that's normal for a big library. We knew at forehand at least dated added would have been resetted - which turns out to be the case - but that's hardly important.


So this is the way to go! Thank you turingtest2 for you patience and determination.


Nathan


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