Hidden process hidden windows

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Hidden process hidden windows

Long story short, I know a thing or two, but I’m not very organized.

This is the reason I am posting this question on the Apple forum.

Has anyone else noticed when cmd + A after a long day of working on the computer and terminating all running programs also re-launching Finder, there is an option prompted to reopen or not reopen all windows.

This will run, maybe two or three times if not connected to the Internet and if connected to the Internet may run more than this.

With the M chips being compromised.

I understand the bounty is quite substantial if able to find a process based bug.

The processing power released by terminating all windows existing when CMD+A selecting programs/windows, it is quite substantial and the difference in restarting the computer is noticeable.

Alludes me to this analogy. ‘A one way mirror’

with the iCloud infrastructure also being potentially compromised this would make plenty of sense

The Unknown

There is an existing program that is persisting beyond the attempt to terminate all visible programs

the known

The prompt to reopen windows occurs under select conditions

The prompt to reopen windows does not occur 100% of the time

Best of wishes

also, I am willing to post the details of circumstances that I am able to re-create this on the Apple product. if requested.

MacBook Air, macOS 15.4

Posted on Apr 23, 2025 7:45 PM

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Answer 1

Apr 27, 2025 8:31 AM in response to o_arison

o_arison wrote:

Well, it's not occurring now. If it does reoccur I will screen shot the exact instance & close but it's the Command, Control + Esc window I am talking about. yours is a power option.

https://discussions.apple.com/content/attachment/65896c54-9348-4560-a01f-bcb512a8f3fb

& to identify the relaunch option.

https://discussions.apple.com/content/attachment/8c2c9b7f-7732-4fea-bff7-192b9f760869

for quite some time. when force quitting all application. with the command + A selection there was a window that would pop up on the successful relaunch of the finder application.

since it is not occurring I will keep an eye out for it so I may permit the community of observe what I believe is a process bug.

I hope this helps further identify the root cause.

The root cause is killing all the apps, and an app that isn’t fully contending with that.

If you wish to identify which app is showing that window, perform a series of quits, binary searching through all your running apps. Load half of your usual apps, clobber all, and then either move to the other half of the usual apps if no window or move to half of the half of apps if the window is shown, and repeat, until the app is identified.

You can then report this to the app developer, though whether it’ll be considered priority given the setup and the effects involved.

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Answer 2

Apr 28, 2025 2:20 AM in response to o_arison

Why are you force quitting all the apps in the first place?

This is not meant to be used regularly, only when some application is not responding - then you force-quit that application.

Force-quitting all applications does not make sense.

You either just close the lid, as advised, to put your mac to sleep and then just resume.

Or in some cases you may want to shut down your mac, (Apple menu)->Shutdown.

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Answer 3

o_arison Author

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Apr 27, 2025 5:06 PM in response to MrHoffman

MrHoffman you're probably correct.

I was able to get the issue to reoccur. I have not limited the circumstances to 'only' google chrome being in the task window; but it is the only circumstance I have been able to see this issue happen under. I have also noticed some issues with application icons 'while' chrome was active in the applications window such as the chrome icon appearing as the finder icon & a black side bar sliding off of the desktop from about 8/10s of the way to the right hand side of the monitor. similar to if I had swiped to virtual desktop and decided against it immediately.

I have not been able to capture that issue as of yet.

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Answer 4

Apr 25, 2025 7:27 AM in response to o_arison

o_arison wrote:

Has anyone else noticed when cmd + A after a long day of working on the computer and terminating all running programs also re-launching Finder, there is an option prompted to reopen or not reopen all windows.

also, I am willing to post the details of circumstances that I am able to re-create this on the Apple product. if requested.

MacBook Air, macOS 15.4

I have no idea what you are asking here— maybe you can say more about the details...(?)

Command A is select all —this has no bearing on "all applications."

There is no reason to terminate all running applications —

simply close the lid and let the Mac sleep, pickup where you left off when you open the lid.

ref: Log out, sleep, wake, restart or shut down your Mac

Shut down or restart your Mac - Apple Support

Command Tab will present the HUD (Heads Up Display ) of all running applications. You can select or quit applications here as well,

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o_arison Author

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Apr 27, 2025 8:25 AM in response to leroydouglas

Well, it's not occurring now. If it does reoccur I will screen shot the exact instance & close but it's the Command, Control + Esc window I am talking about. yours is a power option.

& to identify the relaunch option.

for quite some time. when force quitting all application. with the command + A selection there was a window that would pop up on the successful relaunch of the finder application.

since it is not occurring I will keep an eye out for it so I may permit the community of observe what I believe is a process bug.

I hope this helps further identify the root cause.

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o_arison Author

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Apr 28, 2025 8:23 AM in response to Luis Sequeira1

two words -

nano chron

& some other ones too

but I don't 'just' do that. I select all apps then quit. just like a real world job.

I don't 'just' walk in to my bosses office and say I quit then walk out. that's how you can get a bad rap.

you walk around make sure all the nonsense is quiet all my work is complete. and I have planned a sufficient leave gap two three weeks of what ever needs to be done. basically becoming the manager for my position for two weeks to make sure that if I leave I take that position with me. or I leave and they recognize my position has be come obsolete so they don't hire someone to find out that's why I left.

I quit the roles that I am bound by, so I may depart the facility with a clear and free consence. then when I walk by my old office my old boss say hey I remember you I am retiring at the end of the year. would you like what used to be my old job. I already know you can do everything when you left your position you really showed me up. I sat around twiddling my thumbs for a whole month after you left we hired another person and I really started to appreciate how well you performed. im so happy I bumped into you.

is a million dollar raise company car and loads of benefits. + you do like 5 or 6 meetings make 2 decisions and your done for the week. there is a lot of off time reading though.

so when I quit. I quit correct.

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Answer 7

Apr 27, 2025 5:41 PM in response to o_arison

Not much help here, as I only very rarely clobber apps leaving macOS to deal with that, and don’t generally run any Google apps.

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Answer 8

o_arison Author

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Apr 28, 2025 7:25 AM in response to MrHoffman

Thanks MrHoffman.

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